Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

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Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby NC3Z » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:12 pm

The 7000DLE is on my short list for SDR transceiver. I would like to have some sort of hardware VFO know and controls and I know some of the midi controllers work. But has anyone used the TMATE2 with PSDR mRX? Does it work well? Any quirks?

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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby w-u-2-o » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:41 pm

There are not too many people using the Tmate, however this guy has some screenshots and apparently it works for him:

http://dj4ch.de/shack.html
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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby WB4YAL » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:27 pm

I have the TMate2 working with PowerSDRmRX. I setup a virtual com port using VSPE (com 0 com should work.) I called it COM 7. Then I open Tmate2Console and set the com port for COM 7. When I start PowerSDRmRX, I goto setup and CAT Control and Enable Port: COM7.

These steps allow the Tmate2 to work just fine with the program. you have Mute, Noise Blanker ANF, Volume, Band changes, and VFO control using the Tmate.

Good luck,

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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby w-u-2-o » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:02 pm

John,

Are you sure that you set both applications to COM7? Normally in any virtual serial port software the virtual connections are set up as port pairs, e.g. COM7 and COM8, and each app uses one port of the pair.

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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby WB4YAL » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:50 pm

Hi Scott,

Yes, I set the VSPE for COM7 and then set the TMATE2 Console program for COM7. The CAT setup in PowerSDR mRX is also setup for COM7.
The VSPE and TMATE2 Console program run in the background. I start VSPE then TMATE2 Console than then run PowerSDR mRX.

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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby WB4YAL » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:06 pm

Here are a couple of shack pics showing things working. I am now using Thetis and it works fine with Thetis also.

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Using VSPE for creating a Virtual Com Port for TMATE2

Postby WB4YAL » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:55 pm

I downloaded and am using VSPE as my virtual com port program. You can set any com port number not already used by Windows. I chose Com7. Attached are screen shots on how I setup the program. When you hit Finish, just minimize VSPE and let it run in the background.
Next, you run the TMATE2Console and set the same port as you set for VSPE. Lastly, Run PowerSDR mRX or Thetis and goto Setup/CatControl and
Eanble CAT for the port you assigned the TMATE to. You should be all set!
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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby w-u-2-o » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:53 pm

Ah, that explains it. Most people use port pairs. I believe only VSPE allows "connectors", one of the reasons I use it myself in order to allow two apps to connect to the same source of data. :)
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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby Glasgow » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:16 pm

My ELAD TM-2 arrived today. It does not work right out of the box. Interestingly, I do not have any kind of popup window like the one illustrated for the WoodBox Tmate-2 version. Where did that come from? I've searched the ELAD website and did not find any downloads for the TM-2. The directions that come with this ELAD version seem to assume you will use it with an ELAD radio only.
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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby WB4YAL » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:34 pm

Hi Harry,

Did you not get a CD with your TMATE2? There is a program you need called Tmate2CatConsole that is necessary to use with the software.
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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby Glasgow » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:47 pm

I just double checked the box and there is no CD. I received no software and I guess that is the problem? I searched the net and found just one guy who seems to have a copy but it has "issues". Can anyone provide me with a copy of the software or point me to an internet source?
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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby jeffreydoran » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:26 pm

Link to Folder containing the Tmate2Console setup program:

https://1drv.ms/f/s!Aj054vb5k4NMhf9ugRYDimaa7ShEyw

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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby Glasgow » Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:21 pm

Hi Jeff,

I tried to download it but it tells me it cannot find the dll file and refuses to download. The dll file will not download. I have no idea of how to proceed. John, WB4YAL, sent me an email with the program and it loaded but it will not let me select COM7. The only choices are COM3 or COM4, both of which are already occupied. Interestingly, the TM-2 comes alive when I run the TM 2 program but the PowerSDR MIDI does not see it, at all. There's gotta be a way.

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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby jeffreydoran » Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:53 pm

I think you only need the setup exe, it is a compressed archive that contains everything you need.
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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby WA0VY » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:55 am

I have aquired a T Mate and am trying to set it up. I can make it work with a connector in VSPE and a pair in VSPD 9.0 ... BUT, it times out pretty quickly in either and I lose the connection entirely. Before it times out, I have been able to confirm it is fully functional. Any advice as to what is causing this?
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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby WA0VY » Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:40 pm

I was able to solve my connection problem - faulty physical USB port on the USB hub in one of my monitors. Moved the T Mate to a different port and I was then able to make the it work ALMOST perfectly. The one remaining issue is that I can't seem to get the VFO step tune down to 100 Hz. The lowest I can get is 250 Hz. I have reviewed all the videos on YouTube and the settings I can see are the same as mine and the step tune in videos I saw was 100 Hz. I assume I'm doing something wrong but have no idea what.
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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby WA0VY » Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:36 pm

Update: I am able to get to a 100 Hz tune step by lowering the tune step in HPSDR to 50 Hz. If I lower it to 25 Hz, the T Mate tune step is 50 Hz. 100 Hz in HPSDR yields a 250 Hz tune step in the T Mate. And so on and so forth. So, the T Mate is not interpreting the HPSDR tune step correctly. It goes to the next highest step. The Incr Step Speed 1 is 1, 2 is 5, 3 is 10. These are stock settings. Only adjusting Incr Step Speed 1 has any effect - if I change 1 to 2, it doubles the step, 3 triples it, etc. Incr Step Speed 2 and 3 don't seem to do anything. In addition, when I press the VFO knob, it toggles between voice and CW modes. None of this makes much sense. There is zero documentation on this. Not sure I like this thing.
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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby WB4YAL » Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:50 pm

Hi Brent,

Glad someone else is using the TMate2. I have not had the same issues. But I am using Thetis with my Anan 8000DLE. I get 100hz tuning. Also, when I tap the vfo knob, it changes from VFOA to VFOB.
So I am not certain why we are getting different options unless there is a difference with something in the software.

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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby WA0VY » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:05 pm

John, yours is working as expected, and as all others I have seen in the videos work. I have been in touch with Franco about this but haven't heard back yet on these issues. I use VAC and also note that I am getting a lot of buffer over/under runs and a huge increase in dropped packets when the T Mate is connected to HPSDR. Normally, I see a few over/under runs and a couple OOOP's when I first bring HPSDR up but once it is running for a few seconds, I see no more no matter how long I keep it up. Even then, I have rarely even seen the OOOP's counter in double digits. Now, I'm seeing hundreds. Last count was over 800. As soon as I disable the CAT port and stop the T Mate, the OOOP's stop accumulating and there are no more over/under runs. I have tried both VSPE and Virtual Serial Port Driver with identical results. VSPD allows you to customize the connections and I played with that to see if there was a better setting and there was not. I don't have any MIDI mapping files at this time since this is a new install of HPSDR. So, there is nothing there that would be conflicting with that. I have not tried a database reset, so that will be next. But I'm about ready to box it up and send it back. Very puzzling.
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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby WA0VY » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:48 pm

Data base was reset. Same exact issues. This could be a defective unit, but I'm done with this. There is insufficient upside to this device vs. a DJ controller to be worth half this much havoc.
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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby WB4YAL » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:55 pm

Wow! I am sorry you are having such problems with the Tmate2. Also, I wish I had some ideas of how to help you. My Tmate2 worked just fine with PowerSDR mRX also. I do not use any other software such as logging programs and I have an extremely fast PC with SSD drives and a Ryzen 7 2700X processor with 64 Gb of memory. I don't think that has ANY bearing on the use of the Tmate2 but you definitely may have a bad unit,

Good luck and 73 de WB4YAL. John
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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby qst » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:00 am

Hi All
I have had Anan 7000 DLE MKII and Elad TM-2 for 3 days. I connected TM-2 to the computer USB port and the green "USB" LED on TM-2 is off. Does Anan have to be connected via USB to a computer? I have a virtual serial port splitter. Is there a configuration program for TM-2? Please help.
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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby DH1KLM » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:07 am

Hello Slawowmir,

although the TM-2 is recognized by Windows as a HID device, the "Tmate2Console" setup program is also necessary to set up the device.

And no, the Anan is not connected to the PC via USB.
Has your anan ever worked before? If so, you should know that it will be connected via LAN.
I assume your Anan has no PC installed?

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Re: Elad TMATE2 USB Tuning system

Postby qst » Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:00 pm

Hi Sigi,
thank you very much for the story. Just yesterday I launched TM-2. Everything works fine. I have already met Anan 7000 DLE MKII. Low output power is my problem. Maximum is 64 W for dummy load on all bands. I don't know if it's a matter of software or regulation inside the radio. Maybe someone had a similar problem?
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