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Don,
I see the frozen panadapter problem from time to time. Not really an issue. Either waiting a few seconds or clicking the "Power" button solves the issue. I have experienced this issue over many versions of Thetis. It may be more of a Windows/System quirk than anything else.
73, George
W2GS

W9BHI wrote:Ernst,
All of the power saving settings are turned off.
I only have a screen saver and the monitor is set to shut off after 30 minutes.
No change in behavior.
Don W9BHI

Hi Don,

1) Please switch it into GDI+ and perform the tests to identify if it is a DirectX only issue
2) Please check video card drivers are up to date

Odd that it springs to life when you hover over any drop down menu though, very odd that.

R.

PS: not much done this week on Thetis, short of free time until the weekend.

Richie,
Video drivers sere up to date, when switching to GDI+ I had to reduce frame rate from 60 to 21 to get the red warning indicator to go away.
I will let it run for a few hours and see what happens,
Thanks,
Don W9BHI

W9BHI wrote:Richie,
Video drivers sere up to date, when switching to GDI+ I had to reduce frame rate from 60 to 21 to get the red warning indicator to go away.
I will let it run for a few hours and see what happens,
Thanks,
Don W9BHI

yeah thats ok, Thetis cant maintain 60 fps under gdi mode so red led shows. Yep, will be interesting to find out if the display is rendered after you drop out of screensaver/powersave. GDI+ is being deleted in 21g, as it is somewhat pointless maintaining it now these days, but worth a test to find out if it is a DirectX idiosyncrasy.

Richie.

Richie,
I ran it overnight in GDI+ and the panadaptor was still running this morning.
Maybe a Direct X issue?
Thanks,
Don W9BHI

Richie,
The panadaptor locked up shortly after reverting back to direct X.
I did notice that hovering over any button will cause it to start working.
Another thing I noticed was with a frame rate of 60, no red led flashing but at 61 it starts to flash.
I set it at 58 for now.
Thanks,
Don W9BHI

W9BHI wrote:Richie,
The panadaptor locked up shortly after reverting back to direct X.
I did notice that hovering over any button will cause it to start working.
Another thing I noticed was with a frame rate of 60, no red led flashing but at 61 it starts to flash.
I set it at 58 for now.
Thanks,
Don W9BHI

Don't worry about the odd flicker when at 60fps. If you have a 60hz refresh rate display and you turn on VSync, DirectX will limit to 60fps as expected. If you now select over 60fps as the required rate then it will not be able to do that as it is now being limited by VSync to 60, so you will see the red warning.

A way to test how much overhead your system has, turn off Vsync, and wind up the FPS and see where the red warning shows up. That is basically showing you the limit that everything can process through to provide a frame to display. There was a post somewhere a while ago that covered some of this. Width of the panadapter, number of RX's, fill, gradient, active peak, peak blobs etc etc all have an impact.

R.

MIDI

How much of a problem would it be to break every single midi config? Some source code has been provided by Sigi that re-orders the midi command list, but as a side effect also re-numbers all the midi entries internally breaking all existing configs. There is no 'easy' way to import or maintain any existing config unless another approach to sorting is implemented.

I have spent quite a while working my midi config and I wouldn't be too happy having to do it all again. However I thought I would put it out there, what is the consensus from people who have extensive midi configs?

R.

I would be able to re do mine easily enough I think.

If you have to recreate the midi configuration once again and in the future the work is no longer necessary, that would be justifiable.

yeah we need to come up with another solution, as if we add a bunch more commands, it may need resorting again. It is not a good idea to go this route imo. I'll have a word with Sigi.

R.

To reconfigure the midi-settings would not be a big deal for me.

73 Ernst

Just exactly what you said, Richie: "I have spent quite a while working my midi config and I wouldn't be too happy having to do it all again."

I use my Midi 100% of the time, but would be very willing to have to rebuild it if needed for improvements in Thetis.

Not happy having to re-do everything (I use *two* MIDI controllers) but am certainly willing if it improves things long term. Please give a warning and make the change happen on a weekend.

What's the upside? Will this change make it easier to expand the command set?

W2PA wrote:Not happy having to re-do everything (I use *two* MIDI controllers) but am certainly willing if it improves things long term. Please give a warning and make the change happen on a weekend.

What's the upside? Will this change make it easier to expand the command set?

nope, just a re-order of the list as far as I can tell which breaks existing config files, and some new functions that were missing such as bands on rx2 etc. TBH, I think I am going to give it a miss as it is, and will see if Sigi can re-work it to maintain the existing ID's, and introduce a grouping/sorting system. If not, I will do it at some point, but not in the short term.

R.

I would gladly redo my midi config if it meant that RX2 bands changing would work. I use rx2 alot. Midi band changes do not work and 20 and 17 meter on RX2 does not save mode or Bandwidth. Always changes to CWu in the low end of the band regardless of where I was last.

Its a little time consuming but I would do it..
THx
Todd

If it will only be one time, I agree to redo MIDI configuration, as now some functions sometimes are not working properly.
Thanks.

ramdor wrote:MIDI

How much of a problem would it be to break every single midi config?

No problem for me. Do whatever makes Thetis better!

Hi all,

I did a quick search to see if this issue was already reported. Nothing found.

I am another ham are experiencing, "a bug?" where if your running Thetis 2.8.11 (21f) and you turn turn off Thetis then turn it back on using the "power on button" Thetis crashes/closes. It looks like it wonts to start but closes instead. This is only occurring using the modified files. Standard Thetis v2.8.11 dose not do it.

I have tried it using Richie's method posted on YouTube and with a fresh install and Database from scratch. Same results.

I'm running Thetis v2.8.11 x64 with the x64 patch files.
Protocol 1 firmware on my Anan 200D (please don't question me why I'm running P1, there are currently no versions of P2 firmware that works for me).

Also there are no error logs each time it does it. Not sure if its a crash or something else.

PC System is: CPU: i9, 9900K, ASUS ROG RTX2700 Super (8GB) graphics, latest drivers from Friday this week, 32GB RAM, m.2 SSD Samsung 970. Complete new OS reinstall, all drivers up to date and patched.

Cheers
Phil - VK1HX

Hi Phil,

Not much to help with your Thetis problem, but I've been working on the 100D firmware.
I found some areas to improve, ICMP, DHCP, thermal stability, and most importantly reducing the SEQ errors.

Could you please give this FW a try:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kbx73c6xby8s9v9/Angelia_Protocol_2_v12.1.6.rbf?dl=0

Then perhaps we can continue the conversation in the FW forum:
https://apache-labs.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=3311

-Rick / N1GP

n1gp wrote:Hi Phil,

Could you please give this FW a try:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kbx73c6xby8s9v9/Angelia_Protocol_2_v12.1.6.rbf?dl=0

Then perhaps we can continue the conversation in the FW forum:
https://apache-labs.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=3311

-Rick / N1GP

Hi Rick,

Good to hear from you. I am running an ANAN-200D (Rev.24 PA board) Orion MK1. I think your firmware is for a 100D?

Regards
Phil

Phil,

Sorry about that, I'm also working on the 200D and 7/8000 FW.

Here's the latest 200D:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7715wou8i6yliyt/Orion_NP_v1.9.15.rbf?dl=0

-Rick / N1GP

n1gp wrote:Phil,

Sorry about that, I'm also working on the 200D and 7/8000 FW.

Here's the latest 200D:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7715wou8i6yliyt/Orion_NP_v1.9.15.rbf?dl=0

-Rick / N1GP

7K&8K FW update? interesting!!

OK, for the faint of heart here's the latest 7/8000 FW image:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j37h9hd02p6iv50/Orion_MkII_Protocol_2_v2.1.18.rbf?dl=0

Please report results in https://apache-labs.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=3192

-Rick / N1GP

All,

Please keep this topic free of further firmware posts. Post firmware related things in the firmware topics.

Thanks,

Scott

Posts about firmware in this topic will simply be deleted.

Please post firmware discussions, comments questions and all things about Protocol 2 firmware in the firmware sub-forum appropriate to your type of hardware.

You can find that sub-forum and the proper topics here: https://apache-labs.com/community/viewforum.php?f=32

Thank you for understanding that the intent of a forum of this nature is to keep information organized, curated, and easy to find and parse. It is not a "single stream of consciousness" environment

Thanks,

Scott

...Scott...

Phil - VK1HX

P.S. do you have a position/explanation/idea on my issue with powering Thetis 21f off then back on and it closing?

No, I'm sorry, Phil. That problem is unique, and I haven't a clue what might be causing it.

It might be worth mentioning that if I don't chime in on a topic then 99% of the time it means I don't have any relevant or helpful inputs.

I know a lot of things but, as many would be very happy to point out, I certainly don't know everything, ha ha!

But that's why we have a forum. It's the openHPSDR "hive mind"!

w-u-2-o wrote:No, I'm sorry, Phil. That problem is unique, and I haven't a clue what might be causing it.

It might be worth mentioning that if I don't chime in on a topic then 99% of the time it means I don't have any relevant or helpful inputs.

I know a lot of things but, as many would be very happy to point out, I certainly don't know everything, ha ha!

But that's why we have a forum. It's the openHPSDR "hive mind"!

All good. Maybe Richie can shed some light. I was hoping the immediate closure of Thetis would leave an error log file, however it didn't.

I can work around it. I do like some of the new features in the 21f mod. It would be nice for the "2TON" button to be visible under standard Thetis skin. I'm using a different skin with a dark background and the only the word 2TON show. Love this feature it works well.

Cheers
Phil - VK1HX