Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby W2PA » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:28 pm

Quick comment on the new multi-notch (MNF) mouse functions in 21e: fabulous! Thanks!
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby W2PA » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:38 pm

Comment/question on highlighting Tx profile items...

I really like this function - it makes all the relevant settings immediately obvious. But here's something to consider:

This is so useful I'd like to leave it enabled all the time. But it also highlights controls in the main console in a way that partly obscures them to a degree. I'm wondering if there might be a less obtrusive way to indicate this in the main console.

Not high priority, obviously.
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby dl5tt » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:00 pm

Dear Richie,

thanks a lot for your fantastic work.
Unfortunately I can't use your versions (I can only test your improvements), because I need diversity functions (nearly on all bands to supress solar panel inverters).
Could you please remove the limiting for the "gain factor" (at present the maximum is 1.000) or reactivate the old maximum of 5.000. Its sufficient, if I can type in this value.
By the way: Is it possible, that the factor is also active, in all three modes, not only in RX1+RX2.

Thanks again
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby K1LSB » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:43 pm

Richie,

(7KDLE, v21e 64bit, Protocol 2, Win10)

Not sure if you ever addressed this, one tiny persistent bug I'm still seeing is the MIC button won't stay disabled (my "Default" profile has been customized and re-saved).

Thanks for all you do for us!

Mark

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:54 pm

Ernst - I can clear the txt if an image is provided otherwise those without images will have a problem. Also the Region1. I didn't actually test it, just slapped all the numbers in assuming the code would actually use the same method to work out the limits, but NO. It has another version of band edges to do that ! Now it doesn't :lol: Should be ok next release.

Chris - thanks for finding that, forgot to call function to redo the numbers when you click an entry. Added to a couple of other places that were missed as well. Regarding the highlight, I will have a look at doing it another method this evening. It was more of a turn it on, check what is happening, turn it off type thing, but it could be improved I am sure.

K1LSB - it is caused I think by having different values stored into a TX profile. The slider value get stored, and when re-applied via the txprofile, causes a change, which turns the button on. Turn the mic off, then drag the slider, it turns on. Not sure if we actually want it to do that, it has to be coded around otherwise. I'll look at it again.

Josef - I will resolve this when I get back onto the Div form again. It was put on the backburner after the initial fixes to the re-size.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby K1LSB » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:07 pm

ramdor wrote:K1LSB - it is caused I think by having different values stored into a TX profile. The slider value get stored, and when re-applied via the txprofile, causes a change, which turns the button on. Turn the mic off, then drag the slider, it turns on. Not sure if we actually want it to do that, it has to be coded around otherwise. I'll look at it again.

R.

Richie,

I never touch the Mic slider, it's always at zero. That value is saved with every TX profile so reloading any of my profiles doesn't change the value of the slider.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby cLicari » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:11 pm

Richie....

21e running great here.
Awesome work you're doing!
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:21 pm

K1LSB wrote:Richie,

I never touch the Mic slider, it's always at zero. That value is saved with every TX profile so reloading any of my profiles doesn't change the value of the slider.

Mark


but assigning it a 0 is different to the value that is there by default which seems to be 6, so a change will occur, which will turn the button on. I will look at it.

Just as a test, set it 6, turn the mic off, save the TX profile, restart and see if it comes back on.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby rbduck » Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:46 pm

Richie,

Are the PA Gain settings not saved as part of a TX Profile? If not, what is retaining this information?
It looks like to me most of what is saved are items in the audio chain.

I really like the updates. They are working well and I am not seeing any issues.

Thanks and
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby w-u-2-o » Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:03 pm

Ruben,

PA gain settings are not part of the transmit profile.

Why would you want them to be?

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:29 pm

That mic turning on problem....

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if (PowerOn && !chkMicMute.Checked) chkMicMute.Checked = true;


the function that contains that is called from 16 places

line in
line in boost
mic boost
MIC gain
CATMic
MicGainMin
MicGainMax
all the keyboard controls to change mic gain
The actual MIC button on the front end gui
when leaving FM
when swapping to AM but only if TXing on B .. for some reason
when swapping to SAM but only if TXing on B .. for some reason

The frustrating thing is that no comments are put in here, why is FM ignored for example? Every other mode it is ok to turn on the MIC if the system is powered and the MIC is off, but not FM? Why?

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The upshot of this is that it could be any number of those settings that are changing and are causing the MIC to turn back on. Easiest solution would be to drop that code tbh and let user turn it on/off.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby rbduck » Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:42 pm

w-u-2-o wrote:Ruben,

PA gain settings are not part of the transmit profile.

Why would you want them to be?

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Scott


No, I didn't know if those settings belonged in the profile or not. I was just curious. I ask many questions out of mere curiosity and not intended to be a statement of preference. This is why in an earlier message I stated than when I could see the highlighted sections I would learn a few things.

After seeing it all that is highlighted It looks like most all of it is audio chain settings that are saved. There are a places where
power settings are saved. I understand those ( the ones indicated in the profile) are specific power settings and not what I would refer to as power configuration settings that are in the PA Settings tab.


Thanks to you and Richie and all those that have been here a lot longer than I for answering my questions. Sometimes you ask me questions forcing me to think.

Cheers,
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby oe3ide » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:17 pm

Ernst - I can clear the txt if an image is provided otherwise those without images will have a problem


I made the buttons for the 4 default skins (i think IK3VIG Special is the default one).

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby Taiga » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:18 pm

Hi Ritchie,
Small issue:

RX2 AGC gain slider on Panadapter display jumping to different position when initially adjusted:

After starting Thetis with Rx2 enabled, when the Rx2 AGC gain slider is adjusted on the panadapter it doesn't follow the mouse movement, but jumps to a different position approx 10db away from where it should be. Sometimes it disappears outside the panadapter window e.g. to -105 db.

Just in case it may be important re: the above issue: I use RX1 for FT8, and Rx2 to monitor Morse code on the same band. My ADCs are all assigned to ADC0 except for DDC1 (which is assigned to ADC1) in order to accomplish this. Kudos to Scott, who helped me set this up.

Again, thanks so much for all the wonderful improvements in Thetis!

All the best,
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:46 pm

Taiga wrote:Hi Ritchie,
Small issue:

RX2 AGC gain slider on Panadapter display jumping to different position when initially adjusted:

After starting Thetis with Rx2 enabled, when the Rx2 AGC gain slider is adjusted on the panadapter it doesn't follow the mouse movement, but jumps to a different position approx 10db away from where it should be. Sometimes it disappears outside the panadapter window e.g. to -105 db.

Just in case it may be important re: the above issue: I use RX1 for FT8, and Rx2 to monitor Morse code on the same band. My ADCs are all assigned to ADC0 except for DDC1 (which is assigned to ADC1) in order to accomplish this. Kudos to Scott, who helped me set this up.

Again, thanks so much for all the wonderful improvements in Thetis!

All the best,
Taiga


not seeing this here, tried both panadapter/panafall. Can you make a video, cover radio model, protocol, agc mode + gain settings for rx1/rx2 and DDC/adc config page, and send me DB to my email which is over on QRZ.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby K1LSB » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:50 pm

ramdor wrote:That mic turning on problem....

the function that contains that is called from 16 places
...
The upshot of this is that it could be any number of those settings that are changing and are causing the MIC to turn back on. Easiest solution would be to drop that code tbh and let user turn it on/off.

R.

I agree, the best solution would be to let the user turn it on/off. IMO it should also be saved with TX profile, given that for some profiles (digital for example) the mic isn't used.

Thanks again,
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby G3ZQH » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:10 pm

Hi Richie
Thanks for enabling the Manual Notch Filter (MNF) support for transverters. It works perfectly.
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby KA5KKT » Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:16 pm

What button file name do I need to apply to an appropropriate button in my custom skin for the 2TON function?
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby oe3ide » Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:23 pm

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby KA5KKT » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:21 am

Thank you kindly, Ernst.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby W1AEX » Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:18 pm

Richie,

Just a quick note to thank you for all your work and to say that 21e is running smoothly on this end for all the features I use. I really like the easy convenience of the new bandstack interface along with the TX profile highlighting for saved items and the labeling of the ADC assignments.

Great job!

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby K1LSB » Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:24 pm

Being the idiot that I am, I have to ask -- where can I enable the TX profile saved item highlights?

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby W1AEX » Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:26 pm

Hi Mark,

On the "Transmit" tab where you save your profiles, down in the lower left corner.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby K1LSB » Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:30 pm

Ah, thanks Rob.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:11 am

Cheers for the feedback. I am using the bandstack stuff quite a bit compared to the old version. I'm glad it has settled down though, 21d turned into a bit of a nightmare :shock: I need to revisit that atten stuff and try to get it all sorted because it is quite an issue tbh.

21f which will probably land for the weekend has a couple of fixes, and a gain multiplier added to diversity which works quite nicely I think. I am looking at a couple of bugs in the short term, and then I am going to work on the bandstack filter manager stuff hopefully have that fleshed out for 21f.

However, feeling a bit zonked out atm after having 2nd pfizer today, so probably not much meaningful progress for a day or so.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:24 am

Fix the RTTY offset.

Setup -> CAT Control -> CAT

Under RTTY Offset

Enable Offset VFO A
Enable Offset VFO B

This will enable correct frequency when spotting RTTY or going to a RTTY a station that has been spotted.

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pulled from the wants/wishes thread. What is meant to happen here Tom?

As a test, I slapped in 3.650.000 into HRD over cat, with a VFOA RTTY cat offset in DIGIL of 0. The vfo freq in Thetis was 3.650.000. I then changed it to an offset of 1500 DIGL. The vfo in Thetis was now 3.651.500 when sent 3.650.000 from HRD.

If I am in Thetis, and dial up 3.650.000, with a 1500 DIGL offest, HRD tells me 3.648.500.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby Tom AA4VV » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:09 pm

pulled from the wants/wishes thread. What is meant to happen here Tom?

As a test, I slapped in 3.650.000 into HRD over cat, with a VFOA RTTY cat offset in DIGIL of 0. The vfo freq in Thetis was 3.650.000. I then changed it to an offset of 1500 DIGL. The vfo in Thetis was now 3.651.500 when sent 3.650.000 from HRD.

If I am in Thetis, and dial up 3.650.000, with a 1500 DIGL offest, HRD tells me 3.648.500.

R.


Sorry, you are correct.. I was thinking Thetis should change it's VFO setting but what you have described is obviously
correct.

Thanks for looking at it.

I am a retired C++ programmer and I know how much effort you are making . Thanks.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby PD3LK » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:13 pm

K1LSB wrote:Richie,

(7KDLE, v21e 64bit, Protocol 2, Win10)

Not sure if you ever addressed this, one tiny persistent bug I'm still seeing is the MIC button won't stay disabled (my "Default" profile has been customized and re-saved).

Thanks for all you do for us!

Mark

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Hi Mark (& Richie), it took some time before i could reproduce this but in my case the mike changed to ON after switching from LSB or USB to AM or SAM.
The solution is rather simple... set TX-FL button to ON(!), change the mike setting to OFF and save your TX profile again.
Not sure if it's a bug but with TX-FL off your mike setting doesn't get loaded properly. r/Leon
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby oe3ide » Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:17 pm

Ok, 2 small cosmetics for today :P

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby DL2XY » Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:11 pm

Bug report

[Thetis2.8.11 21e, Anan100 P2, WIN7 x64]

  • Tune tone display is shifted by CW-Pitch in Panadapter, Panafall and Waterfall.
  • TX spectrum display wrong widht if BW<>192k and DUP selected.
  • Scope display is broken. Scope2 display first trace is broken, second trace ok.
  • Collapsed Display: Band Control Buttons disapear if tuned outside hambands.
  • Wrong path evaluation if using -datapath: option (PM follows)

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