Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:04 pm

cheers Walter. A vid reply and for anyone else interested (also read the vid description text) : https://youtu.be/e6Hc1CAHKI8

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:03 am

UPDATE 21f released

It will require CTRL to be held as you launch it to update the database as a new entry as been added to the TX Profile table. Please make note of any DB settings you lose during this process this and I will work towards maintaining these settings in future updates.

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21f
fix: band stack 1 of # numbers now change when you select an entry in the stack list by mouse click
fix: notch popup prevented when adding new (CTRL right click)
fix: more colours fixed for the small info in VFOA/B boxes
add: gain multiplier added to diversity form
add: default ip:port button for N1mm spectrum (cat->UI)
change: quickrecall <V> get removed if images are being used from a skin
change: changes to custom hang threshold - need to test custom agc is active at thetis start
change: mic mute state is saved/loaded with TX profile, all other changes to it have been prevented (requires DB update)
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:50 am

Sorry, but I left some debug info in there on the main panadapter... I have updated the top post with a new version that has it removed.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ea3aqr » Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:45 am

Thanks Richie!

Have a nice weekend!
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby oe3ide » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:17 am

Works fine here :-)

thanks Richie
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby N4QNT » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:59 pm

My first glitch this morning, every update from 21a 64bit to 21e 64bit has been error-free. Of course, holding down CTRL to install. But with 21f after the routine, I get Fatal Error with this message when starting up..
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby oe3ide » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:22 pm

N4QNT wrote:My first glitch this morning, every update from 21a 64bit to 21e 64bit has been error-free. Of course, holding down CTRL to install. But with 21f after the routine, I get Fatal Error with this message when starting up.. Screenshot 2021-07-31 084944.jpg


Looks like the database has not been updated. Did you get both messages (on first start with ctrl pressed and on 2nd start)?

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby w-u-2-o » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:04 pm

Is it not time to deprecate both GDI+ and the 32 bit version?
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:22 pm

w-u-2-o wrote:Is it not time to deprecate both GDI+ and the 32 bit version?


yes Scott gdi+ is getting ignored now and getting left behind, it needs to go. 5 downloads of the 32bit 21f patch, vs 43 downloads of the 64bit version, so perhaps x86 should stay ;)

@N4QNT did you resolve this? Like Ernst said, it looks like the DB has either not been updated, or is now in a condition that cant be updated. Hold CTRL not during the install (which is just copying the files from the zip over the top of the files in the install folder), but hold it during the launch process when you click/double click the Thetis shortcut. You should see :

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and then after you restart Thetis again

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Note: these message boxes may end up behind other windows, obscured, so you may have missed them, and perhaps have now another Thetis running in the background. This issue is on the list of things to fix.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby rbduck » Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:28 pm

w-u-2-o wrote:Is it not time to deprecate both GDI+ and the 32 bit version?


Surely everyone that is running SDR is running it in a 64 bit machine. It would relieve the programmer from supporting two systems. Will the compiler do both 32 and 64bit from the same code or does the programmer have to code two different pieces of software?

I know it will be awhile before Windows 11 is mainstream and Win 10 is gone, but Microsoft said they have no plans for a 32 bit version of Windows 11. If no one is running 32 bit Thetis it may be a good time to put it to pasture.
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby W9BHI » Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:48 pm

Richie,
Dumb question, where is the mic mute feature located?
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby W4GM » Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:59 pm

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I get this error when trying to install 21f. It's been smooth sailing until now. I know it states it is the micmute issue. Any suggestions.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby DK1WP » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:09 pm

rbduck wrote:
w-u-2-o wrote:Is it not time to deprecate both GDI+ and the 32 bit version?


I know it will be awhile before Windows 11 is mainstream and Win 10 is gone, but Microsoft said they have no plans for a 32 bit version of Windows 11. If no one is running 32 bit Thetis it may be a good time to put it to pasture.




I hope that Windows 11 will not become mainstream and hopefully a Linux 64 Bit Thetis with all today's functionalities will be realised. Like ExpertSDR2 for SunSDR2 PRO v1.1.3 (Linux). Of course with PureSignal. That would be cool. LinHPSDR is unfortunately still far away from that. Too bad!
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby w-u-2-o » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:15 pm

ramdor wrote:5 downloads of the 32bit 21f patch, vs 43 downloads of the 64bit version, so perhaps x86 should stay ;)

R.

I'd be willing to bet a beer or two that those 5 downloads were by folks who erroneously think they should run the 32 bit version for some unfathomable reason and not because they are running a 32 bit environment.

There's only one way to be sure, and that's to not post a 32 bit version and see what really happens.
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby NC3Z » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:29 pm

W9BHI wrote:where is the mic mute feature located?


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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:35 pm

For 21f if you see anything like :

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Please go to post 1 and read and re-read the first couple of lines in BOLD.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby rbduck » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:36 pm

w-u-2-o wrote:
ramdor wrote:5 downloads of the 32bit 21f patch, vs 43 downloads of the 64bit version, so perhaps x86 should stay ;)

R.

I'd be willing to bet a beer or two that those 5 downloads were by folks who erroneously think they should run the 32 bit version for some unfathomable reason and not because they are running a 32 bit environment.

There's only one way to be sure, and that's to not post a 32 bit version and see what really happens.


:o Well I have to admit I was one that downloaded the 32 bit version also. I did it because I tinker around with the 32 bit version a bit.
Just tinker. I get bored :( So the other 4 were erroneously downloaded. If this negates your bet, I'll buy you the beer! Count me out as a serious user. I use the 64 bit version when on the air.
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:50 pm

w-u-2-o wrote:
There's only one way to be sure, and that's to not post a 32 bit version and see what really happens.


hah yep, it would save a re-compile, a zip, a rename of the zip, an md5 of that zip, an upload of the zip to dropbox, a bitly link, an update to the post. I could put my feet up Scott :D .... 21g - no x86 or GDI+ :twisted:

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby W4GM » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:05 pm

Thanks Richie,

All had gone well up to this time on all the updates. I thought that I had followed the instructions, but guess not. I went back and did a reinstall and it loaded as it should have. Makes me feel kind of stupid when stuff like this happens! :oops: I'll be more careful next time :D . Thanks again for all your hard work!!

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Postby ramdor » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:18 pm

W4GM wrote:Thanks Richie,

All had gone well up to this time on all the updates. I thought that I had followed the instructions, but guess not. I went back and did a reinstall and it loaded as it should have. Makes me feel kind of stupid when stuff like this happens! :oops: I'll be more careful next time :D . Thanks again for all your hard work!!

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ah good stuff Mike. Yes, the CTRL thing is not ideal, but it saves having to update version numbers. Thetis could better handle the DB being all out of whack though I must admit.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby DL8LAQ » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:18 pm

ramdor wrote:5 downloads of the 32bit 21f patch, vs 43 downloads of the 64bit version, so perhaps x86 should stay ;)

Ok, I will not d/l 32bit again :-) Don't need it...
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby NC3Z » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:34 pm

Guess I wont use my Win 95 PC anymore :roll:

Ritchie, thanks for fixing the Mic mute button, really no performance issue, it was just an annoyance when using VAC for the Mic.
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby N4QNT » Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:03 pm

Thanks for the response Richie, yes after the Zip overlay I hold the CTRL double-click thests.exe, got the Blue anyway window saw all the popup windows you mentioned about DB overwrite and Re-start, then after that re=start is when I got the VAC fatal error.. So not the end of the world I'm ready to start with a fresh uninstall/reinstall then I guess I can try again jumping right to 21f I presume?





ramdor wrote:
w-u-2-o wrote:Is it not time to deprecate both GDI+ and the 32 bit version?


yes Scott gdi+ is getting ignored now and getting left behind, it needs to go. 5 downloads of the 32bit 21f patch, vs 43 downloads of the 64bit version, so perhaps x86 should stay ;)

@N4QNT did you resolve this? Like Ernst said, it looks like the DB has either not been updated, or is now in a condition that cant be updated. Hold CTRL not during the install (which is just copying the files from the zip over the top of the files in the install folder), but hold it during the launch process when you click/double click the Thetis shortcut. You should see :

1.png

followed by

2.png

and then after you restart Thetis again

3.png

Note: these message boxes may end up behind other windows, obscured, so you may have missed them, and perhaps have now another Thetis running in the background. This issue is on the list of things to fix.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:16 pm

Well, you could rename your database.xml file, this will cause Thetis to make a new one. Either way could you send me your DB. My email is over on QRZ.

the file is in C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Roaming\OpenHPSDR\Thetis-x64 or C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Roaming\OpenHPSDR\Thetis

depending if you are running the 64 or 32 bit version.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby N4QNT » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:51 pm

All good here now Richie.. I had the YIPS with the mouse today. 21F working wonderfully. I thought I read somewhere you mentioned maybe with 21F configuring the MIDI controller to tap the 2TON button :)))) pretty please

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby W1AEX » Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:30 pm

Version 21f is working smoothly here Richie. Lots to like with this update but for sure the addition of the gain multiplier in the diversity form is a real bonus here. Nice also that re-sizing the Diversity form no longer corrupts the display of the phasing control. Also, since I am a VAC user for my TX audio chain with all my TX profiles it's great not seeing the enabled MIC button anymore! Thank you for sorting it all out and after testing 21f out for the past evening and part of today it looks like everything I use is working better than ever!

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby W9BHI » Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:11 pm

Richie,
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21F 64 bit running FB here, the best so far!
I have an unusual quirk that I have noticed since I have been running Thetis from the beginning on my setup.
After Thetis has been running for a while, and the monitor has gone to sleep, I move the mouse, the monitor wakes up and the panadaptor is frozen.
Thetis is still running and the sound and everything else is still working only the panadaptor has stopped.
Only hovering the mouse over the Setup, Memory, Wave etc. tabs at the top of the form will cause the panadaptor to start up.
This is probably an issue with my PC and has nothing to do with Thetis.
Thoughts?
I wonder if anybody else has seen this peculiar behavior?
Thanks again for all of your efforts,
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby rbduck » Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:32 pm

W9BHI wrote:Richie,
7000DLE, P2 Windows 10
21F 64 bit running FB here, the best so far!
I have an unusual quirk that I have noticed since I have been running Thetis from the beginning on my setup.
After Thetis has been running for a while, and the monitor has gone to sleep, I move the mouse, the monitor wakes up and the panadaptor is frozen.
Thetis is still running and the sound and everything else is still working only the panadaptor has stopped.
Only hovering the mouse over the Setup, Memory, Wave etc. tabs at the top of the form will cause the panadaptor to start up.
This is probably an issue with my PC and has nothing to do with Thetis.
Thoughts?
I wonder if anybody else has seen this peculiar behavior?
Thanks again for all of your efforts,
Don W9BHI


Hi Don,
I've not had that happen here. Almost all of my quirks have been resolved with a database reset. I always wait to see how many others, if any, have seen a particular issue. Much like you are doing. Good Luck!
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby oe3ide » Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:06 pm

W9BHI wrote:Richie,
7000DLE, P2 Windows 10
21F 64 bit running FB here, the best so far!
I have an unusual quirk that I have noticed since I have been running Thetis from the beginning on my setup.
After Thetis has been running for a while, and the monitor has gone to sleep, I move the mouse, the monitor wakes up and the panadaptor is frozen.
Thetis is still running and the sound and everything else is still working only the panadaptor has stopped.
Only hovering the mouse over the Setup, Memory, Wave etc. tabs at the top of the form will cause the panadaptor to start up.
This is probably an issue with my PC and has nothing to do with Thetis.
Thoughts?
I wonder if anybody else has seen this peculiar behavior?
Thanks again for all of your efforts,
Don W9BHI


Pls check energy saving options of your network-device (=> Device Manager)... could be that the nw-adapter goes also into sleep mode.
Maybe also an USB-device which is taking a nap.
Btw: I have disabled all energy-saving functions on my pc. A simple black screensaver darks the monitors. Of course the monitors are not off and there is some power consumption, but I accept that.

Just an idea

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby W9BHI » Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:00 pm

Ernst,
All of the power saving settings are turned off.
I only have a screen saver and the monitor is set to shut off after 30 minutes.
No change in behavior.
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