Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:04 pm

ea3aqr wrote:21D3:

USB/LSB problem soved, but unfortunately, at startup, the filter is always changed to a 2.9k width filter. :roll:


Is that the filter assigned to a the current stack entry or last used mode?

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby oe3ide » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:06 pm

ramdor wrote:21d3 is up there

Couple of fixes for 21d3, and some changes, please see the list. I just ran some testing on PS on the 7000 here, P2, and seemed fine with default DDC/ADC assignments, and with ADC set at 0 for both DDC2 + 3. There may be some issue if both assigned to ADC1, testing continues.

Also, note there is WIP for notches in transverter bands atm. Still in a state of flux.

R.


Thanks Richie!

First checks:
NOTOK: Stereo checkbox is still white
OK: bandstack update button works
OK: recalling a bandstack entry, tuning to another freq, closing/opening Thetis => last bandstack entry is correct updated to the last freq
OK: VFO A/B lock buttons disabled on MOX
OK: deleting an bandstack entry moves to next entry

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ea3aqr » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:06 pm

ramdor wrote:
ea3aqr wrote:21D3:

USB/LSB problem soved, but unfortunately, at startup, the filter is always changed to a 2.9k width filter. :roll:


Is that the filter assigned to a the current stack entry or last used mode?

R.



Nope, I never use 2.9k filter, all my stack entries and last used mode are at 2.4k.

When Thetis loads it shows the last used band and always a 2.9k filter.

EDIT: When I click on "band" it cycles thru my band stacks and the correct 2.4k filter is applied on first click. I don't know where the 2.9k filter is coming from...
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:20 pm

ea3aqr wrote:
ramdor wrote:
ea3aqr wrote:21D3:

USB/LSB problem soved, but unfortunately, at startup, the filter is always changed to a 2.9k width filter. :roll:


Is that the filter assigned to a the current stack entry or last used mode?

R.



Nope, I never use 2.9k filter, all my stack entries and last used mode are at 2.4k.

When Thetis loads it shows the last used band and always a 2.9k filter.

EDIT: When I click on "band" it cycles thru my band stacks and the correct 2.4k filter is applied on first click. I don't know where the 2.9k filter is coming from...


please send me your DB, either here or email (which is on qrz)

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby oe3ide » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:21 pm

ea3aqr wrote:
ramdor wrote:
ea3aqr wrote:21D3:

USB/LSB problem soved, but unfortunately, at startup, the filter is always changed to a 2.9k width filter. :roll:


Is that the filter assigned to a the current stack entry or last used mode?

R.



Nope, I never use 2.9k filter, all my stack entries and last used mode are at 2.4k.

When Thetis loads it shows the last used band and always a 2.9k filter.

EDIT: When I click on "band" it cycles thru my band stacks and the correct 2.4k filter is applied on first click. I don't know where the 2.9k filter is coming from...


Afaik: if Thetis is started with Ctrl pressed, the old bandstack entries are imported to the new bandstack table,.. Maybe you try to update your database again (click on Thetis while ctrl pressed)

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:26 pm

ok you think this might a problem at the import stage? I will go check in there to see if existing filters are copied over. I wonder if ea3aqr did that this time as well? Although, tbh, the old tables no longer exist if importing from anything 21d onwards.

Also, I missed the damn flat style for the vacstereo..... :lol:

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby DO2ZA Erwin » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:38 pm

DO2ZA Erwin wrote:
DO2ZA Erwin wrote:Hi Ritchie,

21d2 is working fine here, TRX and FW see in my Signature.

PS is working perfekt here, no Problems with it, picking the Signal with ext. Sampler behind my Amplifier.



73 Erwin


Okay, did a test with RX S-ATT 6 dB, Pure Signal work perfekt, but when back to RX i have higher Noise (goes up with 6 dB) on the Spectrum
and on the Audio and 6 dB more on the S-Meter.
Without RX ATT this will not happen.


This is happend also in 21d3 Edit: in 2.8.11 this was not, when given 6 dB Rx-ATT the Gain Line goes up, after TX all stays like before

Another thing: Wen I closed Thetis with 3.610 Mhz, and then restart i get 3.60999 Mhz. I did not know where this Freq. comes from.
Solution: I changed this Freq. to, say 3.604 Mhz, without saving this, with the next Restart all was ok, it comes with 3.610 Mhz what is in the Bandstack so markt.
May be with the Filter this works also??

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:48 pm

Couple of things for the bandstack2 system...

1) if you have a selected unlocked entry, 1 for example and is shown as 1 of 5 in the top bar, and you change anything such as freq/mode/filter/zoom etc, that entry 1 will be updated if you move to another band stack slot, another band, OR you shut down Thetis.

2) depending on the setting for the return state to that bandstack, either by moving to the band, or by starting up thetis, it will use the info in the filter to either, use last used frequency, last used slot, or a specific return slot.

3) unless you lock entries, things will change, but they should change only if they need to, and should change correctly.

4) when you return to last used mode, it will show L in the counter at the top of Thetis, to show it is not using a slot yet

We need to keep an eye out for unexpected changes that are repeatable, like possibly 3.60999 reported by Erwin.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:53 pm

Just a status update. I going MIA for a couple of days to get some other stuff done around here irl.

If there are any big problems uncovered I will look at another quick 21d patch, but for the moment, I would like the dust to settle and work through anything that crops up to be included/fixed in 21e. P1 needs investigating and testing, I have not done that yet, later in the week.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby oe3ide » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:59 pm

ramdor wrote:ok you think this might a problem at the import stage? I will go check in there to see if existing filters are copied over. I wonder if ea3aqr did that this time as well? Although, tbh, the old tables no longer exist if importing from anything 21d onwards.

Also, I missed the damn flat style for the vacstereo..... :lol:

Richie.


Are you sure about old tables?
Did a Test on 40m:
2 bandstack entries 7.150 and 7170
Closed Thetis and made a database update.
=> 6 (4old) entries: 7.005,7010,7045,7.090 and 7.150 and 7.170

Same on 80m.
On 20m I made 2 entries: 14.074 and 14.265. After database update I get 3 entries: 14.074, 14.074.110 and 14.265

In the database.xml (updated from 21d2 to 21d3) there is this entry:
<BandStack>
<BandName>20M</BandName>
<Mode>DIGU</Mode>
<Filter>F1</Filter>
<Freq>14.07411</Freq>
<CTUN>true</CTUN>
<ZoomFactor>236</ZoomFactor>
<CenterFreq>14.0744463</CenterFreq>
</BandStack>


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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby oe3ide » Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:02 pm

ramdor wrote:Just a status update. I going MIA for a couple of days to get some other stuff done around here irl.

If there are any big problems uncovered I will look at another quick 21d patch, but for the moment, I would like the dust to settle and work through anything that crops up to be included/fixed in 21e. P1 needs investigating and testing, I have not done that yet, later in the week.

R.


Richie, you deserve a break. Thank you at this point for your commitment!

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby DO2ZA Erwin » Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:02 pm

Yes Ritchie,

I think that is more than ok!


Again, many thanks for your Top-Work.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby PD3LK » Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:42 pm

ramdor wrote:ok you think this might a problem at the import stage? I will go check in there to see if existing filters are copied over. I wonder if ea3aqr did that this time as well? Although, tbh, the old tables no longer exist if importing from anything 21d onwards.

Also, I missed the damn flat style for the vacstereo..... :lol:

Richie.


Richie, take your time and many thanks for what you did in such a short time.
As for the stereo box .... this also applies to the CW selections ;) (pict)
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Postby oe3ide » Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:48 pm

Helmut wrote:Hello Ernst,

can you test for me predistortion without the Gemini - solo - abt 20W running Vers 21D3

I normaly do not use the S-ATT on receive - have ATT in setup so that in OPTIONS the Step Attenuators are unchecked.

Then in Ant/Filters uncheck RX BYPASS and check ATT on TX with 31dB

If you now press 2TON the ATT on TX sould go to abt 12dB and Predistortion is here abt 60dB IMD

Then press MOX or the Mike-Ptt the ATT on TX goes to 31dB or to 0dB and Predistortion does not come back to 12dB to work proper ??

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Hello,

predistortion abt 60dB is here the same.
Abt 12dB: on 2TON the ATT shows shortly 31dB then switches to S-ATT and shows 10dB
Pressing MOX or PTT is the same, ATT changes to S-ATT and shows 10dB

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby rbduck » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:20 pm

ramdor wrote:Just a status update. I going MIA for a couple of days to get some other stuff done around here irl.

If there are any big problems uncovered I will look at another quick 21d patch, but for the moment, I would like the dust to settle and work through anything that crops up to be included/fixed in 21e. P1 needs investigating and testing, I have not done that yet, later in the week.

R.


Richie, Thank you for the hard work and interest in this wonderful hobby. I know that other thengs you need do get done will be more relaxing than the work you have done here (unless it's plumbing). We are blessed to have you here. Enjoy and Thanks again.

Cheers!
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby DO2ZA Erwin » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:23 pm

DO2ZA Erwin wrote:
DO2ZA Erwin wrote:
DO2ZA Erwin wrote:Hi Ritchie,

21d2 is working fine here, TRX and FW see in my Signature.

PS is working perfekt here, no Problems with it, picking the Signal with ext. Sampler behind my Amplifier.



73 Erwin


Okay, did a test with RX S-ATT 6 dB, Pure Signal work perfekt, but when back to RX i have higher Noise (goes up with 6 dB) on the Spectrum
and on the Audio and 6 dB more on the S-Meter.
Without RX ATT this will not happen.


This is happend also in 21d3 Edit: in 2.8.11 this was not, when given 6 dB Rx-ATT the Gain Line goes up, after TX all stays like before

Edit: Info: with a fresh Database testet, no changes

73 Erwin


Update: Now with d3 i have testet again. The Prob. with the RX-Att is only with the S-ATT, with the normal ATT coming back to RX it is all okay.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby W1JA » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:27 pm

I just upgraded from 21c to 21d3. Two issues noticed:
1. When Thetis starts up, it remembers the last selected mode (LSB), but filter BW always 4.4 kHz. (My filter bandwidths are mostly custom, so the specific BW may not be the issue, but the position in the "stack" of BWs may be.) Never mind - this issue was present the first two times I started 21d3. Third and fourth restarts, it's gone.
2. S-ATT gets "stuck," but not really. Say we start at S-ATT=0 and click the up arrow enough times to get to 31, the max atten. Then click a few more times, say 5 times, staying at 31 since that's the max. Then I decide to reduce the atten value. I must then click the down arrow 5 times before the atten starts reducing. It's like the extra clicks that do nothing get saved somewhere, and must be "used up" before the clicks start actually controlling the atten value. (Note: Thunderstorms around so all my antennas are disconnected. I refer here to just the numbers in the S-ATT window, not necessarily the actual atten values.)

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby dl5tt » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:29 pm

Hi Richie,

concerning the (my) attenuator problem (in normal operation).
After the information from OE3IDE I tried to verify his results, but with no success.
So I did a Database reset....and: Now it works. If I reload my old database, the problem is again existent. So the problem must be in my database.
I have no idea what kind of parameters are in the database, which affect the attenuator function.
Do you have any hints which tags are relevant for the attenuator function?

Sorry for wasting your time with this issue.

It seems to me, that I have to configure a new database.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ea3aqr » Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:04 pm

Richie and Ernst,

Yes, I copied 21d3 files and started Thetis holding CTRL key.

Richie, sending my database to your QRZ e-mail in just a minute!

Thanks
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:06 pm

dl5tt wrote:Hi Richie,

concerning the (my) attenuator problem (in normal operation).
After the information from OE3IDE I tried to verify his results, but with no success.
So I did a Database reset....and: Now it works. If I reload my old database, the problem is again existent. So the problem must be in my database.
I have no idea what kind of parameters are in the database, which affect the attenuator function.
Do you have any hints which tags are relevant for the attenuator function?

Sorry for wasting your time with this issue.

It seems to me, that I have to configure a new database.

73 de Josef


plz send me the old db if you still have it. I will check it out over the next couple of days.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:06 pm

ea3aqr wrote:Richie and Ernst,

Yes, I copied 21d3 files and started Thetis holding CTRL key.

Richie, sending my database to your QRZ e-mail in just a minute!

Thanks


ok, I will check this tomorrow if when a bit of spare time.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby DO2ZA Erwin » Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:28 pm

DO2ZA Erwin wrote:
DO2ZA Erwin wrote:
DO2ZA Erwin wrote:
Okay, did a test with RX S-ATT 6 dB, Pure Signal work perfekt, but when back to RX i have higher Noise (goes up with 6 dB) on the Spectrum
and on the Audio and 6 dB more on the S-Meter.
Without RX ATT this will not happen.


This is happend also in 21d3 Edit: in 2.8.11 this was not, when given 6 dB Rx-ATT the Gain Line goes up, after TX all stays like before

Edit: Info: with a fresh Database testet, no changes

73 Erwin


Update: Now with d3 i have testet again. The Prob. with the RX-Att is only with the S-ATT, with the normal ATT coming back to RX it is all okay.

73 Erwin


Okay, Okay,

but with the normal RX-ATT is PureSignal not working good.......

going back to 21c for the Moment

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby W9BHI » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:13 am

Running 7000dle v21d3 64 BIT P2.
Still having issues with PS.
If I have P2 ADC assignments DDC1 to ADC1 and DDC3 to ADC1 (default), PS works fine and step attenuator goes to 14 and always comes back to that number on every transmission.
The problem is that with that configuration, RX2 does not work.
I have to change DDC3 to ADC0 for RX2 to work, which makes the PS feedback stay blue for a few seconds and step ATT stays at 31 before turning green and the step ATT goes to 14.
If you unkey and then key up, the same thing happens.
It's like the ATT number is not remembered.
Thoughts?
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby K1LSB » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:28 am

Not sure if I did something wrong but the Thetis version at the top of my 21d3 session says "21d2".

Not that I'm gonna lose any sleep over it..

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby PD3LK » Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:28 am

Hi, i'm not sure if this has worked before.... can't scroll this digit with the mouse wheel.
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby rbduck » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:36 am

PD3LK wrote:Hi, i'm not sure if this has worked before.... can't scroll this digit with the mouse wheel.
regards, Leon


That has not worked since I started with Thetis 2.6.9.
I've never seen that scroll forward or backward. Only the digit just before the decimal.
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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:08 am

Well it seems that the adc linking has caused some issues, so I will drop all that for now until I can get to the bottom of it later in the week.

Also, I have found the problem with the bandstack thanks to Jordi. A different vfob filter would cause an update to vfoa filter, not a good thing :shock:

Should be an update 21d4 sometime later today.

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ramdor » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:38 pm

Update 21d4 is up

I have pulled all step attenuator changes. Hopefully everything has been reverted. Also fix to the bandstack which was incorrectly applying vfob filter to vfoa filter in some cases.

Please watch : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lttl8ps5a0

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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby ea3aqr » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:51 pm

ramdor wrote:Well it seems that the adc linking has caused some issues, so I will drop all that for now until I can get to the bottom of it later in the week.

Also, I have found the problem with the bandstack thanks to Jordi. A different vfob filter would cause an update to vfoa filter, not a good thing :shock:

Should be an update 21d4 sometime later today.

R.


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Re: Thetis v2.8.11 - current issues

Postby I2NOY » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:08 pm

Report for 21D4 64 bit on 7000 P2:

-<CTRL> pressed at program start prevents program to start
- Stereo check sign is now OK.
- Still issues on USB and LSB default filter width on RX1 after a reset press. RX2 seems OK (see pictures)

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