Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

[w-u-2-o]

Just be sure to spell "setting" correctly

[w2ner]

love it!!

[ramdor]

Just be sure to spell "setting" correctly

it was being left in to see how long it would go for without someone reporting it.

[ea3aqr]

Hi Richie,

Back to the TCI spots issue...

Swisslog programmer has already fixed the problem and all the additional information (including the spotter) is now shown

But I have a new problem, Swisslog sends via TCI lots of info: spotter's call sign, text comments and LOTW and eqsl membership.
Unfortunately there is not space enough in Thetis's spots to show all the new info and it gets clipped.

Could you please increase the field size?

73

[ramdor]

not as simple as that even if he includes newlines, it will not wrap in Thetis. I don't class it as a bug really, the 30 char limit was from the DX cluster spec. I will have to split his long string into multi lines, calculate new text area etcetc, not a 5 min job. Could do with being in the other wants/wishes etc thread.

Cheers,

Richie.

[ea3aqr]

not as simple as that even if he includes newlines, it will not wrap in Thetis. I don't class it as a bug really, the 30 char limit was from the DX cluster spec. I will have to split his long string into multi lines, calculate new text area etcetc, not a 5 min job. Could do with being in the other wants/wishes etc thread.

Cheers,

Richie.

Thanks Richie, I'm not in a hurry, please add it to wants/wishes...

[W1AEX]

@All
Something to brighten my very dreary mood recently, Ernst OE3IDE has sent over a nice new splash, and it looks great with progress bar and eta to completion time. It will be in rc5 at some point before/during the weekend.

Richie.

Love the splash screen Richie! Well done Ernst!

73, Rob W1AEX

[k5wid]

Rich,Thanks for the info on the EQ's.
This rear speaker mute started with RC3, upon startup and pressing the power button the rear speaker is muted but not the front headphones. to unmute you either hit the tune, any band buttons or the mouse wheel to change the freq.
Thank Darrell

[ramdor]

Rich,Thanks for the info on the EQ's.
This rear speaker mute started with RC3, upon startup and pressing the power button the rear speaker is muted but not the front headphones. to unmute you either hit the tune, any band buttons or the mouse wheel to change the freq.
Thank Darrell

anyone else using the speaker jacks have this issue where the speaker output is muted on power on until a frequency/tune change is made? There is audio from the headphone at all times.

R.

[m1tzr]

Rich,Thanks for the info on the EQ's.
This rear speaker mute started with RC3, upon startup and pressing the power button the rear speaker is muted but not the front headphones. to unmute you either hit the tune, any band buttons or the mouse wheel to change the freq.
Thank Darrell

anyone else using the speaker jacks have this issue where the speaker output is muted on power on until a frequency/tune change is made? There is audio from the headphone at all times.

R.

I use the rear speaker jacks with no issue. Just tested with and without headphones in as I wouldn't normally use headphones, and all OK.

Paul

[lz2hv]

HI All
My name is Christo Developer of MSHV software.
To Developers of Thetis v2.8.11 rc4b, for TCI protocol problems.

MSHV <-> Thetis TCI debug communication, pic=MSHV_ThetisRC4b_1.png

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MSHV <-> ESDR3 TCI debug communication, pic=MSHV_ESDR3_1.png

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LZ2HV Christo.

[Tony EI7BMB]

Welcome Christo

[ramdor]

HI All
My name is Christo Developer of MSHV software.
To Developers of Thetis v2.8.11 rc4b, for TCI protocol problems.
LZ2HV Christo.

Hi Christo,

The IF message will not be returned from a VFO message query reply from 219krc5 onwards, and should be available sometime over the weekend.

Thanks for the report.

Cheers, Richie.

[w-u-2-o]

Rich,Thanks for the info on the EQ's.
This rear speaker mute started with RC3, upon startup and pressing the power button the rear speaker is muted but not the front headphones. to unmute you either hit the tune, any band buttons or the mouse wheel to change the freq.
Thank Darrell

anyone else using the speaker jacks have this issue where the speaker output is muted on power on until a frequency/tune change is made? There is audio from the headphone at all times.

R.

Taking a look at the P2 ICD, we see that Byte 1400 does control the audio amplifier hardware mute line. Looking in the firmware code for the Orion MKII, this is supported and implemented. Looking further, the pin assignment in the firmware matches the schematic (not in naming convention, but hardware-wise).

So it is physically possible to mute the audio amp that feeds the speaker outputs independent of headphone audio output. Whether this is occurring in the software (as it should, the firmware should just be a pass-through) or if the firmware is doing something is more than I can say. I only checked the Orion MKII for this behavior.

[Dan]

Hi Richie,
may I get a link to 219krc5?

Thank you, Dan

[ramdor]

Taking a look at the P2 ICD, we see that Byte 1400 does control the audio amplifier hardware mute line. Looking in the firmware code for the Orion MKII, this is supported and implemented. Looking further, the pin assignment in the firmware matches the schematic (not in naming convention, but hardware-wise).

So it is physically possible to mute the audio amp that feeds the speaker outputs independent of headphone audio output. Whether this is occurring in the software (as it should, the firmware should just be a pass-through) or if the firmware is doing something is more than I can say. I only checked the Orion MKII for this behavior.

Edited:
Interesting, I guess mute button works to mute the rear speakers then? However I need to find out if this is an isolated problem, as the people I have spoken to so far report no mute issues. It might be related to the changes made during the work on getting Monitor af over vac to work, not sure without hooking something up to my radio, and doing some testing in the code. I will order a couple of jacks and try not to blow anything up.

R.

[ramdor]

Hi Richie,
may I get a link to 219krc5?

Thank you, Dan

when ready, 21k9rc4b is some pages up

edit: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3817&start=1470#p18585

R.

[k5wid]

Rich, I have been having Seq errors and been loading some different FW, Looks like I have solved the muting rear speaker, I just loaded V2.7 FW and no more muted speaker, FYI being able to mute the rear speaker would be a great feature when running headphones and the monitor

[lz2hv]

HI
Problems for the moment, in TCI connection Thetis v2.8.11 rc4b and MSHV are, see pic Settings_2.png
MSHV TCI RX1 I ask for RX1 id=0 <-> Thetis return RX1 id=-1 <- wrong RX1 need to be id=0
MSHV TCI RX2 I ask for RX2 id=1 <-> Thetis return RX2 id=0 <- wrong RX2 need to be id=1

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Only working this settings in MSHV and Thetis via TCI are:
MSHV TCI RX2 and see pic Settings_1.png

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LZ2HV Christo.

[ramdor]

yes the -1 issue is fixed, and will be in rc5 over the weekend. Remember that there is no vfoA for RX2 in Thetis at the moment, so some or a combination of those options need to be used. I will make a video of it running with MSHV 2.63 x64 around the time of rc5 release. There is no audio over TCI in Thetis.

Richie.

[w-u-2-o]

Taking a look at the P2 ICD, we see that Byte 1400 does control the audio amplifier hardware mute line. Looking in the firmware code for the Orion MKII, this is supported and implemented. Looking further, the pin assignment in the firmware matches the schematic (not in naming convention, but hardware-wise).

So it is physically possible to mute the audio amp that feeds the speaker outputs independent of headphone audio output. Whether this is occurring in the software (as it should, the firmware should just be a pass-through) or if the firmware is doing something is more than I can say. I only checked the Orion MKII for this behavior.

Edited:
Interesting, I guess mute button works to mute the rear speakers then?

Richie--I don't think that is correct. MUT acts to mute headphone, speaker and, if so optioned, VAC output. That button works at the software level, modifying the audio data stream sent to the CODEC IC in the hardware, and to VAC (if optioned).

AFAIK, there is no Thetis user interface functionality that should allow the hardware mute line input to the TPA0202 audio amplifier IC to be controlled. But the ability is defined in the P2 interface document, and is supported in the firmware and the hardware.

[ramdor]

@Christo

here is MHSV working with Thetis 21k9(rc5-test2) : https://youtu.be/ZIfI4m6G1Ao

21k9rc5 will be out over the weekend hopefully

Cheers, Richie.

[ramdor]

I don't know what happens on those speaker sockets, I have never used them, I couldn't tell you if they mute or not when the mute button is pressed on the front end, and I have not looked at the code deep enough.

In the end It was a case of a change to X didn't cause Y so all is fine. I was scratching my head, grasping at straws by that point because I didn't think the changes I had made (including using a previously unused mix vol level function) were the cause of the issues.

In short.... *shrug* What caused it is anyone's guess at this point, especially as it vanished after a firmware update.

Richie.

[lz2hv]

HI Ramdor

Thank for excellent video and fast reaction !
Next level is to use TCI AUDIO via TCI connection TX/RX, (not with VAC or audio Cables)
And Using "Use Selected Constant TX Audio Frequency" (for pure audio output)
For this need, reaction in you software TX/RX for fast frequencies changes (TX/RX fast reaction) to have pure audio output via TCI audio connection.
Thank for the moment and fink for this.

LZ2HV Christo Developer of MSHV software.

[ag4us]

I'm running two Radio Shack Minimus 7, aluminum case speakers. Sound wonderful.
Connected to the back of my 200D. One right to the i/8" jack, the other to the DB25 connector.
Thetis version 21k9 (rc4b)
Windows 7 Ultimate, I7 CPU.
No problems here. Mute silence the speakers, not VAC1, like it's supposed to I guess.

Great job guys, all of you!

73.Gus.

[K9CDR]

@Cory K9CDR if it happens again, and you start noticing things going wrong, please could you send me the database.xml file

Cheers, Richie.

PM Sent

[lz2hv]

HI Ramdor

For two instance:
To protect TX if using two instance, you need to use tx_enable: flag
example:
MSHV_0 is on TX1
MSHV_1 is on TX2
if MSHV_0 TXing you soft need to send signal to MSHV_1 <- tx_enable:1,false;
if MSHV_1 TXing you soft need to send signal to MSHV_0 <- tx_enable:0,false;
if tx_enable:id,false; MSHV_id no possible to start PTT and emitting

LZ2HV Christo.

[lz2hv]

HI Ramdor
For demonstration two instance via TCI: ESDR3 <-> MSHV
Download MSHV_WIN64_264_rc009_debugTCI.zip and extract in MSHV folder.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... MmQjcHQS_s
Small secret, how to start ESDR3 and see all comunication without hardware.
Goto folder C:\Program Files\ExpertElectronics\ExpertSDR3 and see SdrApplication.exe
To start, make shortcut to desktop with command (target) = "C:\Program Files\ExpertElectronics\ExpertSDR3\SdrApplication.exe" --serial=EED05101000001
And ESDR3 will start without hardware.
See flags tx_enable: and trx: .
LZ2HV Christo.

[ramdor]

@Christo thanks, i've implemented the tx_enable, so will be in rc5 sometime over the weekend.

R.

[ramdor]

rc5 quick look

https://youtu.be/z0zQyRRzgHY

Richie.