Thetis v2.8.11 - UPDATES and current issues

[W9BHI]

Richie,
Got it figured out.
Running v21c now and is working fine.
I did notice that when you press the 2TON button, it turns yellow but when you press it again to turn it off, it turns into a white box with a washed out 2TON letters in it and stays that way.
If you restart Thetis, it goes back to normal again.
Just to let you know.
Thanks,
Don W9BHI

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[oe3ide]

Don, you need the 2TON button in your skin.
See this thread viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3817&p=14926&hilit=2ton#p14926

73 Ernst

[nubbyless]

With my 10e I understand thetis with pure signal is unreliable with protocol 2 and this is a firmware issue.

I would be happy to run thetis with protocol 1 with my 10e but when pure signal and dup are activated on thetis protocol 1 the dup screen freezes on transmit I'm not sure if this is a firmware issue as well or a thetis bug. So as of now I'm stuck with powersdrmrx.

Thanks for all your hardwork
Fred
W4yny

[dl5tt]

Dear Richie,

first of all: Thanky you so much for your fantastic work here.
Today I tried to verify some issues with following results in version 21c (running ANAN 7000 DLE MKII with Protocol 1 (because P2 doesn't work stable):
a) Diversity: I am not able to create a GAIN-value greater then 1 in the gain-field.

Every time the value is changed to 1.0, if I try higher values.
b) Diversity: Is it posible, that allways "inserted or per arrow changed values" are accepted, even if the "Lock Gain" is checked, because the LOCK is only necessary during searching the optimal phase, with the mouse and the circle (my opinion)
c) Diversity: Is it possible to create an adjustible stepping value, because a step size of 0.001 is to small (from my point of view).

d) ATTenuator (not in step mode): The values for AGC GAIN and the spectrum-signal-strength-values are still confusing me. May be I am the problem, but I don't hope so.

Thanks a lot for your energy and your time, you are investing here.

73 de Josef
(DL5TT)

[NJ2US]

Hey folks,

Holding off on releasing 21d for a few days, so I can at least do some more testing.

However, I have just put up a vid which was meant to be a quick short one, but ended up being 30 mins . Grab a coffee and have a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRPxGm09Q_c

Richie.

For general information, the anomaly wherby the "Waterfall: Show Filter, Show Zero Line, Show TX Filter" wouldn't "Stick" was resolved with a total database RESET, and Build again from SCRATCH.

Highly recommend users ocassionally rebuilt your databases from scratch, (take pictures of your SETUP pages for recall). I beileve, ocasionally, that little oddities get embeded in the XML, that are not cleared without a database rebuild.

Jeff NJ2US

[ramdor]

Fred - I have sent a msg to Doug about this. Could be a DCC config issue, not sure yet. I dont have access to, or experience of, all hardware.

Josef - a rework of the form is in hand, but it is on hold at the moment. I started with a fix to the resizing, but had to put rest of it lower down priority list.

Jeff - this issue + some others, should be resolved in 21d.

Regarding 21d... it is delayed at the moment. I am working on the ADC attenuator issue, and have been all day

Richie.

[W9BHI]

I must really be daft because I don't see a button for 2TON in the button packs on W1AEX's site.
Don W9BHI

[ramdor]

I must really be daft because I don't see a button for 2TON in the button packs on W1AEX's site.
Don W9BHI

Here you are Don. https://www.dropbox.com/s/mbgtm03rr1voc ... l.zip?dl=1

Just the two buttons for IK3VIG_Special. I don't think Rob has that pack on there, not sure.

Richie.

[W9BHI]

Richie,
I finally figured it out.
I am not the sharpest tool in the drawer when it comes to computers.
Thanks for the assistance.
Don W9BHI

[ramdor]

Don,

They go inside : C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Roaming\OpenHPSDR\Skins\IK3VIG Special\Console

Forgot to mention that

Richie.

[ramdor]

Richie,
I finally figured it out.
I am not the sharpest tool in the drawer when it comes to computers.
Thanks for the assistance.
Don W9BHI

ah good stuff

Richie.

[ramdor]

Just an update video for those interested in 21d progress. No more coding for today

https://youtu.be/6NYYLsPbtpE

Richie.

[PD3LK]

Good morning, the TX shortcut doesn't work for me. I would like to assign F5 to it.
And, if there is time for it, add 2TON button to the kb shortcut list

[ramdor]

Good morning, the TX shortcut doesn't work for me. I would like to assign F5 to it.
And, if there is time for it, add 2TON button to the kb shortcut list

Morning. Please check the current issue list It is already on there. There is ZERO code behind it at the moment, which is why it doesn't work

[PD3LK]

that leaves a 2TON button assign then

[ramdor]

:oops: that leaves a 2TON button assign then

zero code behind that at the moment as well Leon Onto the list it goes.

[LarryW]

Richie,

I do not believe you are being paid for your services----- would you take any type to money donation for all your hard work?

Thanks
Larry

[W9BHI]

I agree that Richie should be getting some sort of compensation for all of the time and hard work he has contributed to the Thetis software that is being shared with everyone.
Just my unsolicited $0.02.
Don W9BHI

[ramdor]

I wouldn't like to accept anything really, but many thanks for all the offers (including the pm's). There are many many others who given up their time and have worked on all aspects of this project going back years and years. It is now, and was then, done for the enjoyment, challenge and improvement.

I will be soon drawing a line under new features, after 21d releases and has settled (because I am sure there will be dust). I have a couple of things to sort out over the next couple of days, ADC linking and the attenuator implications, finalising the N1MM spectrum UDP messaging, and a couple of other bits and bobs.

Cheers,

Richie.

[W9BHI]

Richie,
I noticed something after installing 21C.
After launching Thetis and starting it, if I minimize it to start my other programs, (DDUtil and HF-Aauto) it does not show up on the taskbar at the bottom of the page.
I have to go to the task manager and close Thetis and and restart it.
Now it shows up in the taskbar at the bottom.
It does this every time I start Thetis after all other apps have been shut down.
Just a while ago when I restarted Thetis, I got an error message saying it had a problem with the database.
When it started, it was running the default data base.
I just imported my backup and it is working.
PC problem or Thetis problem?
Thanks,
Don W9BHI

[rbduck]

Richie,
I noticed something after installing 21C.
After launching Thetis and starting it, if I minimize it to start my other programs, (DDUtil and HF-Aauto) it does not show up on the taskbar at the bottom of the page.
I have to go to the task manager and close Thetis and and restart it.
Now it shows up in the taskbar at the bottom.
It does this every time I start Thetis after all other apps have been shut down.
Just a while ago when I restarted Thetis, I got an error message saying it had a problem with the database.
When it started, it was running the default data base.
I just imported my backup and it is working.
PC problem or Thetis problem?
Thanks,
Don W9BHI

Ditto... ... I have the same thing occurring. I thought it was a Windows 11 thing until I booted back into Windows 10 and the same thing happened. Like you I have to go to Task Manager and kill it. I have it in a batch file. It loads with wWindows. I've had it not go to the Taskbar twice if I was starting it manually. The remainder of the time it goes the Taskbar properly after a manual start.

Edit: I had it load the default database yesterday. That was the only time in about 15 Windows starts.

[W1JA]

TUN button won't tx close to the band edge

The tune function errors out ("Transmit Error: Out of Band") when it would generate a signal closer to the band edge than the SSB (or AM, or DIGx) filter width. For example, if my VFO is set to 7.001 MHz and mode is CWL, I have to move to 7.003 to be able to tune, because my SSB filter width is set to 2.9 kHz.

Of course it makes no sense to use an SSB filter width when in CW mode. But it makes even less sense in any mode, because tuning transmits a continuous carrier. A continuous carrier has a bandwidth of zero, so I can legally transmit right on top of the band edges, in my U.S. case on 40m, 7.000 and 7.300 MHz.

Therefore I submit that using filter width when determining Out of Band should not be done for the TUN function. Only national band edges should be considered.

73, John

[W9BHI]

Ruben,
I am glad that it is just not me having this particular issue.
So it's probably not a PC problem.
Maybe there will be some sort of fix.
Don W9BHI

[ramdor]

Richie,
I noticed something after installing 21C.
After launching Thetis and starting it, if I minimize it to start my other programs, (DDUtil and HF-Aauto) it does not show up on the taskbar at the bottom of the page.
I have to go to the task manager and close Thetis and and restart it.
Now it shows up in the taskbar at the bottom.
It does this every time I start Thetis after all other apps have been shut down.
Just a while ago when I restarted Thetis, I got an error message saying it had a problem with the database.
When it started, it was running the default data base.
I just imported my backup and it is working.
PC problem or Thetis problem?
Thanks,
Don W9BHI

this started with 21c only?

Richie.

[rbduck]

Richie,
I noticed something after installing 21C.
After launching Thetis and starting it, if I minimize it to start my other programs, (DDUtil and HF-Aauto) it does not show up on the taskbar at the bottom of the page.
I have to go to the task manager and close Thetis and and restart it.
Now it shows up in the taskbar at the bottom.
It does this every time I start Thetis after all other apps have been shut down.
Just a while ago when I restarted Thetis, I got an error message saying it had a problem with the database.
When it started, it was running the default data base.
I just imported my backup and it is working.
PC problem or Thetis problem?
Thanks,
Don W9BHI

this started with 21c only?

Richie.

Correct. I knew there was a bit of information I left out.

[ramdor]

It is possibly to do with the code that forces a couple of forms onto screen, which wasn't running before 21c. It seems to happen when Thetis is maximised. The icon vanishes, then if you shut down and restart it and minimise it down there is no icon. Odd indeed. You can alt-tab through the windows to bring it back however. I will look into it.

Richie.

[rbduck]

Greetings all!

I have a MAYBE bug, but first the question. Say you have RX1 and RX2 activated. Both are set to 40 meters. Only VAC1 is activated and not VAC2.
I then switch RX2 to 20 meters. The moment I activate VAC2, RX2 automatically reverts back to 40 meters. Is this normal?

By the same token. If I have both Rx1 and Rx2 on 40 meters and VAC1 and VAC2 are activated. As soon as I deactivate either VAC1 or VAC2, Then set RX2 to 20 meters. When either VAC1 or AC2 are deactivated, RX2 automatically. Are these situations normal by design?
Here is a video to demonstrate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6gILJKS784

EDIT: The obvious workaround is to activate both VAC1 and VAC2 and then change RX2 to whatever band you choose. This does not occur if you switch RX1 to a different band.

[ramdor]

Another small bug: when changing the Var 1 or Var 2 filter settings the passband overlay on the spectral display is not updated in a live fashion. You have to click onto another filter preset and then back to see the overlay width update.

After looking at this, the change to the filter is only made when the specific control has focus, not sure why this was in there. if (udFilterLow.Focused) for example, however the number will change in the up/down number box. I will have to look into where it can get updated from as there may be reasons why it was prevented unless focused.

Richie.

[ramdor]

Greetings all!

I have a MAYBE bug, but first the question. Say you have RX1 and RX2 activated. Both are set to 40 meters. Only VAC1 is activated and not VAC2.
I then switch RX2 to 20 meters. The moment I activate VAC2, RX2 automatically reverts back to 40 meters. Is this normal?

By the same token. If I have both Rx1 and Rx2 on 40 meters and VAC1 and VAC2 are activated. As soon as I deactivate either VAC1 or VAC2, Then set RX2 to 20 meters. When either VAC1 or AC2 are deactivated, RX2 automatically. Are these situations normal by design?
Here is a video to demonstrate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6gILJKS784

EDIT: The obvious workaround is to activate both VAC1 and VAC2 and then change RX2 to whatever band you choose. This does not occur if you switch RX1 to a different band.

This is resolved in 21d. It is related to stereo diversity of all things. The way get vac2 to stick to a band is basically turn SD on when on that band.

fix:fixed issues with restoring old vfob frequency when switching out of SD. This caused issues when selecting VAC2 and other things.

Richie.

[kc4vo]

I have noticed behavior similar to this"

"By the same token. If I have both Rx1 and Rx2 on 40 meters and VAC1 and VAC2 are activated. As soon as I deactivate either VAC1 or VAC2, Then set RX2 to 20 meters."

The difference is it is not related to VAC 1 and VAC 2 as I don't use VAC 2. However, RX2 will jump back to a previous frequency when I make any changes to RX1 mode (USB to LSB for instance) or when I turn RX2 off and turn it back on again. If VFO Sync of SD is on, the frequecy cahnge will be applied to both receivers. It seems to related to either whether "SD" or VFO Sync has been on. The problem seems to go away if I cycle the SD button on and off.

Bob KC4VO