Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 No 6m Band ??

Postby w-u-2-o » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:48 pm

g4bim wrote:Radio won't transmit or receive above 30.0000 mHz after going to 2.8.11.
Anan 7000 dle i7
Ver 2.7 firmware
Any ideas ???
G4BIM

Try resetting your database, or completely deleting your settings folder.
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby g4bim » Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:15 pm

Thank you

That worked fine
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby W2SDR » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:53 am

After I installed the 64 bit version i imported my database from my 32 bit 2.6.9 c3 software and it seems to work just fine. Is there any issues doing this?
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby w-u-2-o » Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:07 am

Most people have had zero problems bringing over their database from older versions. However occasionally there can be a problem. If everything is working there is no cause for concern.
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby N9VX » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:12 pm

Running Thetis 2.8.11 x64 on ANAN-100B protocol 1 (version 1.3) using W10 x64. Dell i5 desktop 8 gig ram, SS drive. 1 gig switch between radio and computer.

Random bad SSB TX audio reports, most TX is good, then a bad transmission occurs. Told it has a distorted echo sound. Has happened on various bands.

Did a database reset, still problem (random).

Tried Thetis 2.8.11 x86 with same results.

NOTE: mRX ,with everything else the same, has never had this problem.

On one occasion it was also reported I was wide, went to mRX and it cleared up, was running Pure Signal in both (all) cases. Guess I should try with Pure Signal off, but for now I am back to mRX.

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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby DK1WP » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:33 am

In most cases known to me the problem could be solved by renaming or deleting the file wdspWisdom00 and regenerating it.
Please try it out.
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby EI2HH » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:44 am

Installed on my 7000DLE yesterday with no issues. Looks good and works just fine!
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby nubbyless » Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:36 pm

K0MO wrote:Thanks for the update!

I'm running the latest Thetis 2.8.11 x64 version.

Everything seem to be working fine for me on my Anan 100B running protocol 2 firmware 10.3, except PureSignal runs very unstable, unreliable and distorted compared to protocol 1.

I did revert to protocol 1 firmware and can confirm that PureSignal works flawlessly there, but I rather have the features and performance of running on protocol 2.

Can this be fixed?

Anan 10e and 100b are the only radios that haven't received any firmware updates for over two years compared to other models.

They need some love because they're great little compact radios!


73,

Manny K0MO




Hi just curious you said with protocol 1 pure signal was running flawless did you mean with thetis or with powersdrmrx.

In my experience on anan 10e protocol 1 with thetis pure signal does work but the panadapter freezes on transmit with dup enabled then returns to operation on Rx just wondering if you had this issue because I would be more then happy to run thetis with protocol 1 if I don't have this issue.
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby W9BHI » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:43 pm

Just installed 2.8.11 running a 7000DLE.
I used the database from the 2.7.0 and everything is working except the dBm display at the right hand corner of the panadapter is not reading properly.
The peak on the panadapter shows for instance -85 but the diplay only shows -8.3.
I switched back to the 2.7.0 program and it is reading correctly.
I have done the whole database reset thing and still no joy.
Any body else seeing this?
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby w-u-2-o » Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:20 am

That number is supposed to represent the amplitude and location of the largest signal in the spectral display window. I never notice it because I always have PureSignal turned on. But I tried it and the amplitude measurement does seem broken.

Does anyone actually use this data to run their radio? It doesn't seem very useful. I'd just as soon have not displayed.
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby W9BHI » Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:45 pm

The Receive Only checkbox is missing on the 7000DLE selection, it is present on the 200D and the 8000DLE selection.
The PI (path illustrator) appears to be the wrong one or is corrupted in the 7000DLE and 8000DLE selection but is ok in the 200D selection.
This is from the same fresh database install as the previous post.
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby W9BHI » Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:18 pm

As long as we are looking at bugs and or features that are non functional, the band stack lock feature doesn't work (I don't think it ever worked). Even if you lock saved frequencies, if you change VFO A it will over write what is in the band stack list and save the frequency you set VFO A for.

The drive level on the screen in the collapsed mode doesn't change when the PWR slider is moved although the drive level actually does change.
The numbers are not updating in the program.
Just telling you what I am seeing.
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby Taiga » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:48 pm

x2 on W9BHI's comment re: the Path illustrator re: the 7000dlemkii. Having the Anan-100 type routing diagram available in Thetis 2.8.11 for the 7000dlemkii would be highly useful.

73,
Taiga.
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby w-u-2-o » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:59 pm

Unfortunately Path Indicator is far from finished. It doesn't really work at all on the 8000 with Protocol 2 firmware.
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby N9VX » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:55 pm

For the past few days been running Thetis 2.8.11 x64 with Pure Signal off and have not had any bad audio reports. So it seems for me that Pure Signal is causing the random bad audio. I run Pure Signal in the radio, not with feed back from an external amplifier.

N9VX wrote:Running Thetis 2.8.11 x64 on ANAN-100B protocol 1 (version 1.3) using W10 x64. Dell i5 desktop 8 gig ram, SS drive. 1 gig switch between radio and computer.

Random bad SSB TX audio reports, most TX is good, then a bad transmission occurs. Told it has a distorted echo sound. Has happened on various bands.

Did a database reset, still problem (random).

Tried Thetis 2.8.11 x86 with same results.

NOTE: mRX ,with everything else the same, has never had this problem.

On one occasion it was also reported I was wide, went to mRX and it cleared up, was running Pure Signal in both (all) cases. Guess I should try with Pure Signal off, but for now I am back to mRX.

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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby vk1hx » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:44 am

w-u-2-o wrote:That number is supposed to represent the amplitude and location of the largest signal in the spectral display window. I never notice it because I always have PureSignal turned on. But I tried it and the amplitude measurement does seem broken.

Does anyone actually use this data to run their radio? It doesn't seem very useful. I'd just as soon have not displayed.


I support the removal of this information also.

73

Phil - VK1HX
73, Phil - VK1HX
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby W9BHI » Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:34 am

So, if a feature that does not affect the operation of the radio since the v2.8.11 release is now not working, just remove it because you don't think it is useful?
Why not just fix the things that were working previously?

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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby N4XD » Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:46 pm

BUG REPORT for Thetis 2.8.11

It appears that, with both receivers on and SD engaged, RX2 is being tuned to 0 hz which is why, when I reported this earlier, I was seeing a spike on the panadapter and why, when tuning, the spike never changed locations. This is only for RX2 and only in stereo diversity mode.

Now, for me, not a big deal as I don't see how SD is useful. So not urgent, at least for how I used the radio. But perhaps something to fix when/ if there is an update.

Thanks
Ron
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby I4LEC » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:04 am

Same issue as N9VX on my ANAN10 (16bit) running Thetis 2.8.11 P1 using W10 x64. i7 desktop 6 gig ram, SS drive.

Did try deleting the file wdspWisdom00 and regenerating it with no joy.

It seems linked to PS as without it or single cal it works fine, it happens randomly 1 every 12-15 ptt

73, Clay
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby Taiga » Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:44 pm

Thetis 2.8.11 suggested feature request / UI modification:

From the "Linearity" panel -> Regarding loading saved Pure Signal parameters using the "Restore button";

Current behavior - "Correcting" indicator box remains black after saved PS parameters are loaded. Only turns yellow after 1st transmission using the loaded parameters.

Suggest behavior: "Correcting" indicator box be reprogrammed to turn yellow immediately after saved PS parameters are loaded in order to provide the user with a visual indication that PS parameters have been loaded. Alternatively a new box could be programed that turns green when saved PS parameters have been loaded e.g. labelled "Saved Parameters loaded".

73,
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby w-u-2-o » Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:06 pm

I4LEC wrote:Same issue as N9VX on my ANAN10 (16bit) running Thetis 2.8.11 P1 using W10 x64. i7 desktop 6 gig ram, SS drive.

Did try deleting the file wdspWisdom00 and regenerating it with no joy.

It seems linked to PS as without it or single cal it works fine, it happens randomly 1 every 12-15 ptt

73, Clay

Clay--are you running VAC based audio?
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby I4LEC » Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:15 am

Clay--are you running VAC based audio?

Scott, I am not using VAC, meanwhile, these past few days I only used single cal without any problem.

While here, I like to add that if I deselect "show zero line" from the setup (appearance/RX display), while on CW main desktop, show CW zero line selection does not have any effect, same as if selected within setup.

Zero line is useful when on phone, helps tuning onto signals, whereas on CW, I rather have it off, I thought the box selection on the CW main desktop was meant for that, it will be nice to have it working that way.

Thanks and 73, Clay
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby N9VX » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:37 am

What is single cal?

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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby I4LEC » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:44 am

What is single cal?

Joe,
stand for single calibration, PS runs just once and do not update according to the incoming feedback (no adaptive PS)

From main console, click on Linearity to access the related selections, including single cal.

73, Clay
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby w3ub » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:50 pm

If you perform a single cal, does the system use that static calibration and apply fixed predistortion? Or does it not apply any predistortion afterwards?

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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby w-u-2-o » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:14 pm

Single Cal makes a single predistortion measurement and locks that in until you either turn PureSignal off, perform another Single Cal, or turn automatic mode (PS-A) back on.

Single Cal is useful for situations where automatic mode is not giving you reliable results. I typically use it when running digital modes. I will assert a two-tone signal, then bang away at the Single Cal button a few times until I get the results I want, then leave it alone.

Single Cal can also be useful for people who, for one reason or another, can't seem to get automatic mode to work reliably for them on phone.

Note that with solid state amplifiers it is often worth letting a two-tone signal "soak" for a few seconds such that the RF amplifier transistors reach a reasonable thermal steady state. That way the correction is optimized for the bulk of your transmissions, not just the very first part of them.
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby w3ub » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:52 pm

Got it.

Seems like this might also be useful if you are having a lot of sequence errors when PS-A is running. I have tried all of the FW, and I think the GB Ethernet interface is marginal in terms of timing and stability. Two of the FW version work, sort of OK, but if I run a net for an hour toward the end I start getting errors, due to the radio slowly heating up I believe.

In this case I could roll back to a static single cal predistortion and probably avoid those sequence errors.

Doug
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby K1LSB » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:49 pm

Not sure if this is the proper place to post this, but I can't seem to make the RX EQ work for RX2.

Am I doing something wrong or is that a bug?

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby W1JA » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:30 pm

2.8.11
x64
200D
Protocol 2

RX2 has audio glitches, like data gaps. They vary randomly. If severe, I can see them in the panadapter. Twice, during severe glitch episodes, I noticed red error text below the waterfall, but they disappeared before I could read them.

The issue is also present in the x86 version. I tried changing the RX2 sample rate from 1536000 to 768000 to 384000 with no change. (RX1 sample rate is 384000.)

2.7.0 a3 did not have this issue.

73, John W1JA
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Re: Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

Postby w-u-2-o » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:30 am

K1LSB wrote:Not sure if this is the proper place to post this, but I can't seem to make the RX EQ work for RX2.

Am I doing something wrong or is that a bug?

Thanks,
Mark

Did this ever work? In PowerSDR?

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