Thetis 2.8.11 Released!

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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby ea3aqr » Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:46 am

More issues on RX antenna selection control on console...

If you are out of band on 15m (for example 21.480), when switching antennas using console control, it is really switching ( watch setup antenna/filters) the antennas on the 12m band.

I don't know if this info helps to sort the problem, but I'm using "Region": Spain and "extended" option is enabled.
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Re: Thetis 2.8.6 Released!

Postby W3MMR » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:13 am

n4lq wrote:
W3MMR wrote:
n4lq wrote:Thanks for the update!

64 bit Thetis reduced CPU% usage from 3% to 1% (Thetis only usage) at 192k sampling rate. Impressive.
System usage peaks out at 4% with 11 tabs of Chrome, Logger32, Telnet and VSPE running.

Observation:
Switching between RX1 sample rates was seamless with previous version 32bit. Now when switching, audio is lost and power off/on brings it back with 64bit. Not really a problem.



But what PC are you using...


CPU is Intel I9-9900K



Well there ya go haha. No wonder you have such low CPU percentage with all of that going on. Youve got to remember, most arent using ANYTHING near that... You see what im running (In my sig), with 6 tabs open in Firefox, KiwiSDR going, and OBS recording, my System usage is 20%.,, It was around 25% before...
Studio "A" - Anan 200D, P2 1.9, Thetis 2.6.9c3, Dell XPS 8700 i7-4770k, Samsung EVO 860 SSD, Nvidia GeForce GTX1050ti, 16GB RAM, Shure SM7B, AL80BX
Studio "B" - Heath-Kit DX100, D-104, National NC-303, Hammarlund HQ-140-X
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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby EA1DAV » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:24 pm

I do the instalation with the .msi installer and it stop starting when message 'initialiazing portaudio' aperar. I have W10 here. I do a reinstall, install again and always fail at the same point. Old thetis 2.7.0 ( a2) work fine.

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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby I4LEC » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:29 pm

Same as Jesus, noticed that the FFT window won't make it all the way to the end and closes by it self, if I try to start Thetis, it stops at 'initialiazing portaudio' and then closes.

73, Clay
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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby w-u-2-o » Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:45 pm

W9BHI wrote:Did the band stack lock get fixed?

Don't know. Probably not, there is nothing in the changelog that I recognize as having anything to do with the band stack. Did you check the changelog? Bet you didn't ;)

Whether it did or didn't, you probably should upgrade, and then you can tell us if it's fixed or not. If not, you'll have to describe the problem because this is the first I remember reading that there was one.
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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby w-u-2-o » Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:48 pm

I4LEC wrote:Same as Jesus, noticed that the FFT window won't make it all the way to the end and closes by it self, if I try to start Thetis, it stops at 'initialiazing portaudio' and then closes.

73, Clay

32 bit or 64 bit build?

Did you try entirely removing (you can move it to the desktop so it's not lost if you want it back) the Thetis or Thetis-x64 folder here:

C:\Users\your-windows-username\AppData\Roaming\OpenHPSDR
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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby I4LEC » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:12 pm

Scott, thanks for the quick replay

64 bit build on a i7CPU 860 2.8GHz

Yes, I did it 3 times to no avail

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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby w-u-2-o » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:30 pm

All of you with portaudio failures: is this happening with the 32 bit build, the 64 bit build, or both? Both can be installed simultaneously.
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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby N4XD » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:37 pm

I'm having that issue with the 64 bit version
Haven't tried the other version

Thanks
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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby w-u-2-o » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:41 pm

If people could try both that might be helpful in tracking down this issue.
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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby DO2ZA Erwin » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:52 pm

Hi Scott and all Others,

2.8.7 and 2.8.8 are running very good, no problems, Setup is running good 32-bit and 64 bit. System is Win 10 Home.
Database is copied from 3.7.0a3, no problem find at this Time.

Very good Work, many thanks to all.

73 Erwin
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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby Mike_N1JEZ » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:56 pm

Tried both and they work on all of my machines except one. It's the 64 bit version that is the issue. Same as the other reports. No problem with 32 bit.

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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby w9ac » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:57 pm

EXT CONTROL now missing in the OC Control setup window in Thetis 2.8.8 (see image attachment from version 2.7.0.) That's a real handicap for me, possibly others. I routinely go in and quickly activate/deactivate global OC control with one click to route Orion II RF and some other functions to the back panel for use with an LDMOS amp that requires 0.5W drive. As is, it now requires a lot of "click management" to accomplish the same. Not sure why OC Control is now limited.

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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby EA1DAV » Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:37 pm

I installed the 32 bits version and in my case it work fine, so my case 64 bits no 32bits yes.

W10 pro if it help


Edit: Doug, W5WC say that if processor don't support AVX instructions, 64 bits thetis fail. Mine don't support it. :x

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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby w9mdb » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:07 am

I'm using WSJT-X on my ANAN 100 and I had to drop the audio level in WSJT-X by over 12dB to get the audio level back down to where it should be.
I had just done my power level settings before I upgraded to 2.8.8 from 2.8.6 and noticed my power was maxed out and kept dialing down to get it where it normally sits.

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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby Victor-UA9SBQ » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:05 am

There was a question about Thetis 2.8.8. HPSDR (Ozy USB) is missing in the Setup section of the Radio Model. Is the addition protected in newer versions?
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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby Mike_N1JEZ » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:19 pm

I installed the 64 bit 2.8.8 version of Thetis on a core 2 duo laptop. Processor is T6670 @ 2.2 GHz. Win10 Pro 64bit vers 2004. 8GB ram installed.

When trying to launch, it fails at port audio initialization. 32 bit version is fine.

I did a "coreinfo" dump and it says AVX is supported.

C:\Coreinfo>coreinfo64

Coreinfo v3.5 - Dump information on system CPU and memory topology
Copyright (C) 2008-2020 Mark Russinovich
Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com


Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6670 @ 2.20GHz
Intel64 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10, GenuineIntel
Microcode signature: 00000A0C
HTT * Hyperthreading enabled
HYPERVISOR - Hypervisor is present
VMX * Supports Intel hardware-assisted virtualization
SVM - Supports AMD hardware-assisted virtualization
X64 * Supports 64-bit mode

SMX - Supports Intel trusted execution
SKINIT - Supports AMD SKINIT

NX * Supports no-execute page protection
SMEP - Supports Supervisor Mode Execution Prevention
SMAP - Supports Supervisor Mode Access Prevention
PAGE1GB - Supports 1 GB large pages
PAE * Supports > 32-bit physical addresses
PAT * Supports Page Attribute Table
PSE * Supports 4 MB pages
PSE36 * Supports > 32-bit address 4 MB pages
PGE * Supports global bit in page tables
SS * Supports bus snooping for cache operations
VME * Supports Virtual-8086 mode
RDWRFSGSBASE - Supports direct GS/FS base access

FPU * Implements i387 floating point instructions
MMX * Supports MMX instruction set
MMXEXT - Implements AMD MMX extensions
3DNOW - Supports 3DNow! instructions
3DNOWEXT - Supports 3DNow! extension instructions
SSE * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions
SSE2 * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 2
SSE3 * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
SSSE3 * Supports Supplemental SIMD Extensions 3
SSE4a - Supports Streaming SIMDR Extensions 4a
SSE4.1 * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.1
SSE4.2 - Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.2

AES - Supports AES extensions
AVX - Supports AVX instruction extensions
FMA - Supports FMA extensions using YMM state
MSR * Implements RDMSR/WRMSR instructions
MTRR * Supports Memory Type Range Registers
XSAVE * Supports XSAVE/XRSTOR instructions
OSXSAVE * Supports XSETBV/XGETBV instructions
RDRAND - Supports RDRAND instruction
RDSEED - Supports RDSEED instruction

CMOV * Supports CMOVcc instruction
CLFSH * Supports CLFLUSH instruction
CX8 * Supports compare and exchange 8-byte instructions
CX16 * Supports CMPXCHG16B instruction
BMI1 - Supports bit manipulation extensions 1
BMI2 - Supports bit manipulation extensions 2
ADX - Supports ADCX/ADOX instructions
DCA - Supports prefetch from memory-mapped device
F16C - Supports half-precision instruction
FXSR * Supports FXSAVE/FXSTOR instructions
FFXSR - Supports optimized FXSAVE/FSRSTOR instruction
MONITOR * Supports MONITOR and MWAIT instructions
MOVBE - Supports MOVBE instruction
ERMSB - Supports Enhanced REP MOVSB/STOSB
PCLMULDQ - Supports PCLMULDQ instruction
POPCNT - Supports POPCNT instruction
LZCNT - Supports LZCNT instruction
SEP * Supports fast system call instructions
LAHF-SAHF * Supports LAHF/SAHF instructions in 64-bit mode
HLE - Supports Hardware Lock Elision instructions
RTM - Supports Restricted Transactional Memory instructions

DE * Supports I/O breakpoints including CR4.DE
DTES64 * Can write history of 64-bit branch addresses
DS * Implements memory-resident debug buffer
DS-CPL * Supports Debug Store feature with CPL
PCID - Supports PCIDs and settable CR4.PCIDE
INVPCID - Supports INVPCID instruction
PDCM * Supports Performance Capabilities MSR
RDTSCP - Supports RDTSCP instruction
TSC * Supports RDTSC instruction
TSC-DEADLINE - Local APIC supports one-shot deadline timer
TSC-INVARIANT - TSC runs at constant rate
xTPR * Supports disabling task priority messages

EIST * Supports Enhanced Intel Speedstep
ACPI * Implements MSR for power management
TM * Implements thermal monitor circuitry
TM2 * Implements Thermal Monitor 2 control
APIC * Implements software-accessible local APIC
x2APIC - Supports x2APIC

CNXT-ID - L1 data cache mode adaptive or BIOS

MCE * Supports Machine Check, INT18 and CR4.MCE
MCA * Implements Machine Check Architecture
PBE * Supports use of FERR#/PBE# pin

PSN - Implements 96-bit processor serial number

PREFETCHW * Supports PREFETCHW instruction

Maximum implemented CPUID leaves: 0000000D (Basic), 80000008 (Extended).
Maximum implemented address width: 48 bits (virtual), 36 bits (physical).

Processor signature: 0001067A

Logical to Physical Processor Map:
*- Physical Processor 0
-* Physical Processor 1

Logical Processor to Socket Map:
** Socket 0

Logical Processor to NUMA Node Map:
** NUMA Node 0

No NUMA nodes.

Logical Processor to Cache Map:
*- Data Cache 0, Level 1, 32 KB, Assoc 8, LineSize 64
*- Instruction Cache 0, Level 1, 32 KB, Assoc 8, LineSize 64
** Unified Cache 0, Level 2, 2 MB, Assoc 8, LineSize 64
-* Data Cache 1, Level 1, 32 KB, Assoc 8, LineSize 64
-* Instruction Cache 1, Level 1, 32 KB, Assoc 8, LineSize 64

Logical Processor to Group Map:
** Group 0

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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby w5wc » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:27 pm

Mike,

Sorry for the bad news but he T6670 does not support the AVX enhanced instruction set. AVX first came out in 2011 and your CPU is from 2009. In your dump the '*' is not beside the AVX feature.

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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby w5wc » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:33 pm

Paul,

The EXT CONTROL will be added back.

Doug
W5WC

EXT CONTROL now missing in the OC Control setup window in Thetis 2.8.8 (see image attachment from version 2.7.0.) That's a real handicap for me, possibly others. I routinely go in and quickly activate/deactivate global OC control with one click to route Orion II RF and some other functions to the back panel for use with an LDMOS amp that requires 0.5W drive. As is, it now requires a lot of "click management" to accomplish the same. Not sure why OC Control is now limited.

Paul, W9AC
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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby Mike_N1JEZ » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:38 pm

Doug,

I missed the * Doh!

Tnx, Mike
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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby w9ac » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:42 pm

w5wc wrote:The EXT CONTROL will be added back.
Doug
W5WC

Thanks, Doug! All else working well here with 2.8.8.

Paul
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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby w-u-2-o » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:46 pm

Victor-UA9SBQ wrote:There was a question about Thetis 2.8.8. HPSDR (Ozy USB) is missing in the Setup section of the Radio Model. Is the addition protected in newer versions?

Victor,

Thetis does not support the Atlas based (HPSDR) systems, not even with the recent addition of Protocol 1 firmware support. In 2.7.0 and prior versions "everyone knew" there was no support for HPSDR even though it was in the setup window because "everyone knew" there was not Atlas P2 firmware. Alas, no everyone really knows because that option is no longer on the list.

Thus, unfortunately, those with hardware older than Hermes have effectively reached a software dead-end unless someone want to continue to develop PowerSDR.

73,

Scott
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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby w9mdb » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:00 pm

There's an error in the "MG;" command. It's returning the dB level -10 to 14 instead of the TS-2000/50S/480 0-255 level and also using -10 to 14 for setting mic gain.
It's OK for the ZZMG; to use the dB level as it currently does since it's PowerSDR specific but the MG; command should be simulating

I'm the Hamlib maintainer and noticed this while testing the new PowerSDR interface that is available in the WSJT-X 2.3.0rc1 now.

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Re: Thetis 2.8.8 Released!

Postby WA2DVU » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:05 pm

1. Downloaded complete 2.8.8 and installed in w10 C:program files.
2. Exported 2.7 DB and imported it to 2.8.8.
3. Everything works fine so far but midi CMD berringer controller does not.
4. 64 bit machine.
Any suggestions?

73,

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Re: Thetis 2.8.9 Released!

Postby w-u-2-o » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:12 pm

2.8.9 is now released. See the first post in this topic.
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Re: Thetis 2.8.9 Released!

Postby w-u-2-o » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:22 pm

Bill,

We are going to need more info than "doesn't work". What does it say/what do you see when you go into MIDI setup and look at the diagnostics tab for your controller? Can you see MIDI commands in the diagnostic display when you move a MIDI control?

Don't forget, the MIDI controller needs to be plugged in and not captured by another application prior to running Thetis. DAW software is famous for capturing MIDI controllers.

73,

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Re: Thetis 2.8.9 Released!

Postby NC3Z » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:34 pm

w-u-2-o wrote:2.8.9 is now released.


And Midi is still working great with the CMD PL-1, antenna selection over-ride and VAC, so no regression ;)
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Re: Thetis 2.8.9 Released!

Postby Pete4638 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:06 pm

I'm currently running Thetis 26.9. Should I uninstall it before installing 2.8.9?

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Re: Thetis 2.8.9 Released!

Postby nubbyless » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:47 pm

Running 2.8.9 64 bit with anan 10e Protocol 1 with the tapr pure signal relay board and xtronic coupler.
i do not get any type of triggering or attenuator calibration its like pure signal is not working at all i tested in 3.4.9 powersdrmrx and its still working fine there.



EDIT UPDATE:
I had the radio set to Hermes with Alex once i selected ANAN 10E pure signal started working but now panadapter display freezes on TX and comes back when returning to RX i tested on 192 and 9600 sample rate.
I also noticed if I select rx2 there's nothing but a center spike on the second panadapter im not sure if this is considered a stitched Rx and that's why it doesn't work as noted on the release for protocol 1

Thanks
fred
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Re: Thetis 2.8.9 Released!

Postby w9ac » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:09 am

EXT CONTROL not functioning in 2.8.9. The button is back in the menu but there's no control of the OCs. Deactivating the EXT CONTROL button should disengage all checked OCs but doesn't. The checked OCs are still active with EXT CONTROL turned off.

Can anyone else confirm?

Paul, W9AC

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