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ANAN-6000DLE
The ANAN-6000DLE is our new addition to the Black Edition Radios, this Radio comes in a miniature extruded Aluminum packaging much smaller that the 7000DLE MKII.
Based on the Orion MKII Platform, this rig boasts of over 103dB DR, Dual ADC receivers for Diversity operation, Large FPGA, 16 Bit Tx chain with 48v LDMOS Finals.
Power Output capable of 50W on HF with additional cooling and 30W on 6M, This rig boasts amazing Tx IMD better than -60dB IMD3.
External DC-DC converter required for operation with a single 13.8v Supply, this converter will be available at an additional nominal cost from Apache Labs.
https://apache-labs.com/al-products/105 ... eiver.html
Specifications:
General Specifications:
Architecture: Direct Sampling DDC/DUC Transceiver
Interface: Ethernet
Phase Noise (Clock): -149dB @ 10Khz
TCXO Stability (Typical): /- .1 PPM
Modes: CW, SSB, NFM, AM, Digital
Antenna Ports: BNC 50 ohms
Frequency Resolution: 1 Hz
Electrical Specifications:
13.8v DC and 48v DC, Optional External DC-DC converter allows operation using a single 13.8v Supply 10A (Available Separately at a nominal cost)
Mechanical Specifications:
2Kg (approx. Weight)
Dimensions: 166MM (L) x 72MM (H) x 176MM (W) (Not including extrusions)
Rugged Aluminum Extrusion
Receiver Specifications:
Receiver Architecture: Direct Down Conversion
Dual 16 bit Phase Synchronous ADCs
Frequency Coverage: 9Khz to 60Mhz
Attenuator: 1-30dB step attenuator
Reciprocal Mixing Dynamic Range (RMDR): 116dB @ 2Khz offset
Receiver Phase noise: -149dB @ 10Khz
Image rejection: 90dB
Hardware support for 7 independent receivers assignable to either ADC
Transmitter Specifications:
Transmitter Architecture: Direct Up Conversion
DAC Resolution: 16 bit
RF Output Power: 30W PEP SSB, FM, RTTY, Digital; 1-20W AM, 30W CW,
50W on HF and 30W on 6M with additional cooling FAN
IMD: IMD3 typically -68dB below PEP @ 30W output on 20M
Harmonics: Typically better than -43dBc on HF and -60dBc on 6M
Carrier and Opposite Sideband Suppression: Better than -80dBc
Transverter IF Output: 0db to 15dB
IOs:
I/O Port (Orion MKII)
3.25mm Barrel Speaker Jack
SMA XVTR, 10Mhz reference Input, XVTR, ADC1, ADC2
3.25mm Barrel Mic, CW Key, Headphones
RJ45 Ethernet LAN Connector
BNC Antenna Port
13.8v DC Connector
48v DC PowerPole Connector
Based on the Orion MKII Platform, this rig boasts of over 103dB DR, Dual ADC receivers for Diversity operation, Large FPGA, 16 Bit Tx chain with 48v LDMOS Finals.
Power Output capable of 50W on HF with additional cooling and 30W on 6M, This rig boasts amazing Tx IMD better than -60dB IMD3.
External DC-DC converter required for operation with a single 13.8v Supply, this converter will be available at an additional nominal cost from Apache Labs.
https://apache-labs.com/al-products/105 ... eiver.html
Specifications:
General Specifications:
Architecture: Direct Sampling DDC/DUC Transceiver
Interface: Ethernet
Phase Noise (Clock): -149dB @ 10Khz
TCXO Stability (Typical): /- .1 PPM
Modes: CW, SSB, NFM, AM, Digital
Antenna Ports: BNC 50 ohms
Frequency Resolution: 1 Hz
Electrical Specifications:
13.8v DC and 48v DC, Optional External DC-DC converter allows operation using a single 13.8v Supply 10A (Available Separately at a nominal cost)
Mechanical Specifications:
2Kg (approx. Weight)
Dimensions: 166MM (L) x 72MM (H) x 176MM (W) (Not including extrusions)
Rugged Aluminum Extrusion
Receiver Specifications:
Receiver Architecture: Direct Down Conversion
Dual 16 bit Phase Synchronous ADCs
Frequency Coverage: 9Khz to 60Mhz
Attenuator: 1-30dB step attenuator
Reciprocal Mixing Dynamic Range (RMDR): 116dB @ 2Khz offset
Receiver Phase noise: -149dB @ 10Khz
Image rejection: 90dB
Hardware support for 7 independent receivers assignable to either ADC
Transmitter Specifications:
Transmitter Architecture: Direct Up Conversion
DAC Resolution: 16 bit
RF Output Power: 30W PEP SSB, FM, RTTY, Digital; 1-20W AM, 30W CW,
50W on HF and 30W on 6M with additional cooling FAN
IMD: IMD3 typically -68dB below PEP @ 30W output on 20M
Harmonics: Typically better than -43dBc on HF and -60dBc on 6M
Carrier and Opposite Sideband Suppression: Better than -80dBc
Transverter IF Output: 0db to 15dB
IOs:
I/O Port (Orion MKII)
3.25mm Barrel Speaker Jack
SMA XVTR, 10Mhz reference Input, XVTR, ADC1, ADC2
3.25mm Barrel Mic, CW Key, Headphones
RJ45 Ethernet LAN Connector
BNC Antenna Port
13.8v DC Connector
48v DC PowerPole Connector
Re: ANAN-6000DLE
Abhi,
So this looks to use the Orion MKII as is, not a new board, correct?
Also, it would appear that while the Orion MKII SMA connectors are now directly accessible, you must also be using the parallel micro-coax connectors internally to connect to the RF board, is that correct?
Are there any receive preselectors on the RF board?
Does the RF board have the usual 10 and 20dB receive attenuators on it?
Will the top of the case have any drilled and tapped holes for an additional external heatsink for those who wish to use "additional cooling"?
Is power supply sequencing important? How much current does the 48VDC amplifier input require?
Will there be new versions of PowerSDR and Thetis, or will people just select the ANAN-8000 and ignore the things the 6000 doesn't do like three antenna inputs, etc?
73,
Scott
So this looks to use the Orion MKII as is, not a new board, correct?
Also, it would appear that while the Orion MKII SMA connectors are now directly accessible, you must also be using the parallel micro-coax connectors internally to connect to the RF board, is that correct?
Are there any receive preselectors on the RF board?
Does the RF board have the usual 10 and 20dB receive attenuators on it?
Will the top of the case have any drilled and tapped holes for an additional external heatsink for those who wish to use "additional cooling"?
Is power supply sequencing important? How much current does the 48VDC amplifier input require?
Will there be new versions of PowerSDR and Thetis, or will people just select the ANAN-8000 and ignore the things the 6000 doesn't do like three antenna inputs, etc?
73,
Scott
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I also see the 7000DLE MKII with the embedded i7 CPU is back in the product line.
Edit: Well, maybe not...I'm confused. The 7K with the embedded CPU is shown in the "Related Product(s)" list beneath the new 6000DLE listing but it doesn't appear in the Apache Labs homepage under "Current Promotions".
Edit: Well, maybe not...I'm confused. The 7K with the embedded CPU is shown in the "Related Product(s)" list beneath the new 6000DLE listing but it doesn't appear in the Apache Labs homepage under "Current Promotions".
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Re: ANAN-6000DLE
Hi Scott,
Good to hear from you, please see inline below:
So this looks to use the Orion MKII as is, not a new board, correct?
Correct, we aim to keep all current/new rigs on the Orion MKII platform, the board performance has been maxed out using the current chips available and does not make sense to redo it especially with the progress made with the firmware on this platform.
Also, it would appear that while the Orion MKII SMA connectors are now directly accessible, you must also be using the parallel micro-coax connectors internally to connect to the RF board, is that correct?
Yes.
Are there any receive preselectors on the RF board?
We plan to have a separate preselector board available down the line, it will install inside the case, so in effect this will have exactly the same performance as the 8000DLE albeit at lower power output
Does the RF board have the usual 10 and 20dB receive attenuators on it?
No need for these, none of the current radios have this.
Will the top of the case have any drilled and tapped holes for an additional external heatsink for those who wish to use "additional cooling"?
NO the Fan will have rubber pads to just sit on top of the case if required
Is power supply sequencing important? How much current does the 48VDC amplifier input require?
No, the 48v rail will use a maximum of 2A
Will there be new versions of PowerSDR and Thetis, or will people just select the ANAN-8000 and ignore the things the 6000 doesn't do like three antenna inputs, etc?
Yes, the new model will be supported, I need to request Doug to add the 6000DLE
73,
Abhi
Good to hear from you, please see inline below:
So this looks to use the Orion MKII as is, not a new board, correct?
Correct, we aim to keep all current/new rigs on the Orion MKII platform, the board performance has been maxed out using the current chips available and does not make sense to redo it especially with the progress made with the firmware on this platform.
Also, it would appear that while the Orion MKII SMA connectors are now directly accessible, you must also be using the parallel micro-coax connectors internally to connect to the RF board, is that correct?
Yes.
Are there any receive preselectors on the RF board?
We plan to have a separate preselector board available down the line, it will install inside the case, so in effect this will have exactly the same performance as the 8000DLE albeit at lower power output
Does the RF board have the usual 10 and 20dB receive attenuators on it?
No need for these, none of the current radios have this.
Will the top of the case have any drilled and tapped holes for an additional external heatsink for those who wish to use "additional cooling"?
NO the Fan will have rubber pads to just sit on top of the case if required
Is power supply sequencing important? How much current does the 48VDC amplifier input require?
No, the 48v rail will use a maximum of 2A
Will there be new versions of PowerSDR and Thetis, or will people just select the ANAN-8000 and ignore the things the 6000 doesn't do like three antenna inputs, etc?
Yes, the new model will be supported, I need to request Doug to add the 6000DLE
73,
Abhi
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DAC out?
Interesting.
Interesting.
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Thanks for the clarifications Abhi.
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I understand from you that the initial production will not inc an Lna for 6m. I think this is a mistake and will hinder some initial sales until this is available. Have a think about whether or not you can include it from the start and likely you will have more preorders - imho. Given the size it would cert clear a lot of desk space over my 8000!
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Curious as to how the 6000 is progressing, I like the option of a lower power version that can drive an amp.
Not sure I would implement HV finals. I understand the better IMD performance, not sure it is worth the added cost and complexity of an additional HV supply, particularly at these power levels.
/Doug
Not sure I would implement HV finals. I understand the better IMD performance, not sure it is worth the added cost and complexity of an additional HV supply, particularly at these power levels.
/Doug
Re: ANAN-6000DLE
When would these be available?
73 de AA5UN
73 de AA5UN
Re: ANAN-6000DLE
Any more news or gone the way of the 8000mk2?
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Re: ANAN-6000DLE
This Model was designed on community feedback and a subsequent group poll, we are currently taking expressions of interest in this model, however, so far we have not received the requisite numbers required to proceed into production
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Thanks for the reply. I have not preordered one as I think the preselector board and 6m LNAs need to be in it from the off. So was waiting until all can be had in one go. Those issues aside, I think it is a great idea - the size is so useful.
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I did a preorder for this radio. Is there an realistic chance that you will eventually build it?
Don K9AQ
Don K9AQ
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Does anyone at Apache Labs actually read this stuff! I would love to be able to buy this radio but apparently they don't want to sell it.
Don K9AQ
Don K9AQ
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Why does Apache Labs "offer" a new product and then fail to follow up. Please refund my $10 if you have intention of offering this product.
Don K9AQ
Don K9AQ
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Because the expression of interest on the homepage is still being asked for, I assume that the 6000 will still be build. That is why I made an expression of interest last week. However, if it is already clear thats it will not be produced, please let me know quickly, because I will then have to look for possible alternatives. It would be a great pity!
Marcus
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Re: ANAN-6000DLE
Hello,
The electronics manufacturing industry is facing acute shortages, components which had a lead time of a few weeks are now stretching out into years, currently our production is focused on the Andromeda, ANAN-7000DLE MKII and the PC integrated version.
The 6000DLE is in active development with no estimated ship date as yet, if you need something within a short time span, the 6000DLE may not be the right choice.
If you wish for your $10 to be refunded we will happily do so, just drop us an email at support@apache-labs.com with your order details and a refund request.
Regards,
Apache Labs Support
The electronics manufacturing industry is facing acute shortages, components which had a lead time of a few weeks are now stretching out into years, currently our production is focused on the Andromeda, ANAN-7000DLE MKII and the PC integrated version.
The 6000DLE is in active development with no estimated ship date as yet, if you need something within a short time span, the 6000DLE may not be the right choice.
If you wish for your $10 to be refunded we will happily do so, just drop us an email at support@apache-labs.com with your order details and a refund request.
Regards,
Apache Labs Support
Re: ANAN-6000DLE
Does this also meen that the ANAN-7000DLE MKII delivery lead time is more then 6 to 8 weaks?
73 PA0XHF.
73 PA0XHF.
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Re: ANAN-6000DLE
Lead time indicated on the website for the 7000DLE MKII is accurate, comments are indicative only for the 6000DLE
PA0XHF wrote:Does this also meen that the ANAN-7000DLE MKII delivery lead time is more then 6 to 8 weaks?
73 PA0XHF.
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I love the concept of the 6000, and recently placed a deposit-of-interest. This would be a backup to my primary 7000DLE MkII. I'm fine waiting however long it takes! Meanwhile I have my 7000DLE MkII which I love, to keep me happy.
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How we looking on this deal? Anyone heard anything? ![Geek :geek:](./images/smilies/icon_e_geek.gif)
![Geek :geek:](./images/smilies/icon_e_geek.gif)
Re: ANAN-6000DLE
administrator wrote:Hello,
The electronics manufacturing industry is facing acute shortages, components which had a lead time of a few weeks are now stretching out into years, currently our production is focused on the Andromeda, ANAN-7000DLE MKII and the PC integrated version.
The 6000DLE is in active development with no estimated ship date as yet, if you need something within a short time span, the 6000DLE may not be the right choice.
If you wish for your $10 to be refunded we will happily do so, just drop us an email at support@apache-labs.com with your order details and a refund request.
Regards,
Apache Labs Support
A year ago today, I made my inquiry about the 6000DLE. Now I would like to ask again how far the development has progressed and whether there is now more information on a planned delivery date. Thank you very much.
Marcus
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I just submitted an inquiry on the 6000 series today, I'll post when I hear back. I wanted that rig!