Introducing the ANAN-8000DLE MKII

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Introducing the ANAN-8000DLE MKII

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Re: Introducing the ANAN-8000DLE MKII

Postby w-u-2-o » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:45 am

Abhi,

Could we get more details about what is new about the 8000 MKII? The ad copy on the website doesn't really explain it. Don't all 8000DLE MKI's have the TX attenuator already? Is the 50V final RF amplifier stage the same as in the 8000 MKI? Or is it a new 50V design that does not have the high impedance/high voltage behavior?

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Re: Introducing the ANAN-8000DLE MKII

Postby Tony EI7BMB » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:59 pm

Yes I would be interested in details too as I am just about to purchase a new Anan.
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Re: Introducing the ANAN-8000DLE MKII

Postby dl4zbg » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:22 pm

- I do not see a dedicated transverter RX input, is it missing or does the 8000 MKII have a combined RX/TX transverter port?
- RX/TX switching with (noisy?) relays or quiet PIN diodes?

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Re: Introducing the ANAN-8000DLE MKII

Postby administrator » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:05 am

Hi Scott/Volker/Tony and all,

These are the changes incorporated into the MKII compared to the previous model:

1. Incorporates the Orion MKII rev5.2 with the Tx attenuator (please note that all 8000DLEs shipped in the last few months also incorporate the same revision of the Orion MKII)

2. Use of 48v input as opposed to the 13.8v DC IN, these are now several very good 48v DC supplies available and also much cheaper than a 13.8v 50A equivalent models, There is a cost saving by removing the internal 13.8v to 48v boost supply.

3. changes to the PA board and LPF to improve performance and duty cycle, the PA design and Output device is the same.

4. We now no longer need the Arduino Display and the complexities arising out of it.

5. The enclosure footprint has been reduced.

The 8000DLE amd the MKII uses exactly the same transverter output scheme, both have a relay switched combined Tx/Rx output. The Transverter port in the 8000DLE is marked as "Transverter Tx Out" , however, it is actuallt a combined Tx/Rx port.

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Re: Introducing the ANAN-8000DLE MKII

Postby w-u-2-o » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:11 pm

OK, so the same old 8000 if you don't quibble about the revision of the Orion MKII, but without the annoying front panel, the complexity of the internal 50V upconverter, and smaller dimensions. All welcome changes, plus the lower price.

However, there must be a 50 to 12VDC power supply inside now, correct?

Does the factory have any recommendations on 50V, 600W power supplies? The only thing I can find new that is not stratospheric-ally priced are a couple of "Mean Well" brand supplies on Amazon, both under $100. Are those any good?

Otherwise you have to search around for server "blade" supplies that start at around $250 and go up from there, unless you going to buy the same thing, used, on eBay. And you've got to play games terminating 120V into the blind mate connectors on those.
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Re: Introducing the ANAN-8000DLE MKII

Postby administrator » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:31 pm

Hi Scott,

As I mentioned there are significant changes to the LPF, SWR/Directional coupler design. The 200W PA has been tweaked as well.

There is an internal low noise DC-DC converter for the 12v rail.

I would recommend using Meanwell HEP-600-48, its completely silent and rugged. If fan noise does not bother you there are several other options such as the Meanwell RSP-750-48

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Re: Introducing the ANAN-8000DLE MKII

Postby DL5RBW » Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:31 pm

What happened to the 8000DLE MKII ad? Don´t see it anymore.

Powersupply "noise" in this discussion refers to blower noise if I understand it right. I wouldn´t mind a little bit of blower or fan noise as long as the powersupply is "quiet" or let´s say "reasonably quiet" in terms of RF emissions. Any experience with the Meanwell powersupplies in that respect? The HEP-series seems to be quite new and comes for approx. 230 € but if one needs to design and add additional filtering plus shielding.......................................
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Re: Introducing the ANAN-8000DLE MKII

Postby k6avp » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:05 pm

I also would like some update/status on the 8000DLE. I am ready to upgrade (from a 100B) to more power and performance.
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Re: Introducing the ANAN-8000DLE MKII

Postby G8VR » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:14 pm

Me too, can we get some more info on this, like delivery dates etc?
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Re: Introducing the ANAN-8000DLE MKII

Postby M1AQO » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:08 pm

Hi,

Is there any update on delivery times. I also believe that the PA is 500w from what I’ve heard.

Is anybody aware of this ?

That would maybe explain the higher voltage supply required.

Thanks

Glenn
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Re: Introducing the ANAN-8000DLE MKII

Postby Helmut » Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:06 pm

Looked at the Apache Labs website today, no 8000dle found :?:
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Re: Introducing the ANAN-8000DLE MKII

Postby M1AQO » Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:16 pm

Strange.

Why announce something then remove the link

You would have thought they would have updated us
with the status.

Oh well.
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Re: Introducing the ANAN-8000DLE MKII

Postby DL5RBW » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:31 pm

I didn´t read anything about 500 W when the ad was online but 200 W like the "old" ANAN-8000DLE. It is just easier to supply the 50 V to the radio and then use a stepdown converter to supply the lower voltages like 12 VDC, 5VDC etc. as the current in these low voltage circuits is approx. 1,5 to 2 A. Also the wire size can be much smaller making it more flexible with less voltage drop either. Supplying a solid 40 to 45 A at the 14 VDC level is not an easy task and every joint can be a problem - including the fuseholder!

I don´t know why Abhi didn´t reply to the many requests yet as he was replying quite fast to some of the questions asked here.

Interesting that also the "old" ANAN-8000DLE disappeared and is not available anymore - at least I couldn´t find a supplier having it in stock.

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